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| Time: 08:13 EST/13:13 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Brian Kvalheim | ||
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Computers will change our lives more in the next 10 years than they have in the last 20. Not only are people relying on them for more of the things they do every day, but the pace of computing innovation has never been faster. Processing power continues to advance, according to Moore's Law, while network bandwidth, wireless, storage and graphics capabilities are growing at even faster rates. This is revolutionizing how we live. Many of the things we use every day--from entertainment systems and telephones to kitchen appliances and even wristwatches--are morphing into computers capable of communicating with PCs or any other computerized device in our homes. The result is that computers are becoming so ubiquitous, they are literally disappearing into the fabric of our lives--and becoming so intuitive to use that we hardly notice them. | ||
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| #1 By 2960 (156.80.64.137) at 2/25/2004 8:26:57 AM |
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I say "Horsepuckies".
The other day, I was in the 'Library', and being fresh out of new Magazines for the month, I picked up an old PC Magazine from April 2002. I was really astonished at how little we had progressed since then. I felt as though I could have very well been reading the April 2004 copy. It was the same old hardware. The same old arguments. The same old political problems. The same old RIAA. The same old DMCA. Etc... No time warp there! Besides, as whole-sale as the American Computer Industry is being sold-out to foriegn interests for fast-money, I'm not so sure it matters any more. TL |
| #2 By 19992 (67.109.141.156) at 2/25/2004 10:33:32 AM |
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Some of these students might join technology companies like Microsoft after they graduate, while others may stay and teach, work in other industries or launch their own ventures. Regardless of what they do when they leave school, my priority is to help them realize their own incredible potential
That'll be the day. Bill: So you'd like to start your own Linux distribution and support company? Grad: Yes I would, can you help me realize my own incredible potential? Bill: Of course, here are some free training vouchers for coding in C and C++ and some money to help you get started. We are on you're side and are here to help you create a business that will compete directly with us. |
| #3 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 2/25/2004 11:47:35 AM |
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Hey, happyguy, I guess Rob over at Real Networks would be an exception, eh? Yeah, he worked for Microsoft for 10 years and through his hard work and Microsoft's rewarding of that work, he became a millionaire (Microsoft has made more millionaires than any company in history).
There are many others that have left Microsoft and formed there own companies. Some of which, like Real Networks, compete directly or indirectly with Microsoft. Be that as it may, you missed the point of what Gates is trying to accomplish. Namely, getting more American students to go into the sciences in general and computer science in particular. For the richest guy on the planet to give away hundreds of millions of dollars to after school programs, secondary schools, and our universities and then go to the most promient universities and implore their students to go into computer science sounds like there might be more to Gates than making more billions for Microsoft. You think? |
| #4 By 19992 (66.101.204.156) at 2/25/2004 1:32:19 PM |
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jdhawk, A couple of points. Rob was not trained and paid by MS to go setup Real and MS was not involved (in any meaningful way) in the media player arena at the time that Real was started.
Also, I don't think I missed the point of what Gates wants to accomplish. I just can't see Bill supporting or aiding persons interested in forming a company that is designed to directly compete with Microsoft. |
| #5 By 19992 (67.109.141.156) at 2/25/2004 3:38:50 PM |
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Windows Media Player predates Real by a couple of years.
Reread my post. MS was not involved in Media Players in any meaningful way at that point in time. If you want to claim that the Media Player included in Win95 was a great advancement in the area go ahead, I could use a good laugh. As for MS recruiting the top people in the field. You are partly correct. However, many people will not work for Microsoft for a myriad of reasons. To assume that since MS pays X dollars and has X projects means that employees are going to be willing to relocate to the nearest MS campus is insane. I know at least one person who turned down a mid 6 figure salary from MS a few years ago because he did not want to move to Washington. |
| #6 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 2/25/2004 3:54:03 PM |
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No doubt, happyguy, when you are running the late night window at McDonald's and a customer barks into the speaker for a hamburger combo you tell him to take his business across the street to Wendy's. No wonder McDonald's recently had their first down quarter since they went public! lol
By the way, no one said or implied that Rob was involed in Microsoft's Media Player. What's your point? |
| #7 By 19992 (67.109.141.156) at 2/25/2004 4:08:56 PM |
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No doubt, happyguy, when you are running the late night window at McDonald's and a customer barks into the speaker for a hamburger combo you tell him to take his business across the street to Wendy's.
Which goes hand in hand with my point of Bill not actively encouraging people to set up a competing business, what's your point? By the way, no one said or implied that Rob was involed in Microsoft's Media Player. You are the one who brought Rob into this. I was just responding that Rob was not brought into Microsoft for the purpose of forming Real. This post was edited by happyguy on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at 16:10. |
| #8 By 19992 (67.109.141.156) at 2/25/2004 4:16:33 PM |
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He is pretty confident that the salaries, projects, technology that Microsoft offers will allow him to recruit some of the top people out there. "I know at least one person who turned down a mid 6 figure salary from MS a few years ago because he did not want to move to Washington. " Wow. Anecdotal evidence. I'm overwhelmed! Just because Microsoft can't recruit every single person they want, does not refute what I said about Microsoft benefitting from the general improvement in the availability of talented people. No, but it does indicate that the projects and salaries are not the only motivating factors for people. Besides, I'll take my anecdote over your assumption any day. |
| #9 By 3339 (64.160.58.135) at 2/25/2004 6:09:58 PM |
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"Actually, while RealAudio predates Windows MediaPlayer on Win95 a bit (and postdates the player in Win 3.1) the playing of Mpg and Avi files in Win95 predates RealVideo by almost 2 years."
And? What's so special about playing non-native, standard formats? There were hundreds of free apps which did the same. Win95 was not much better. Remember, NetShow AND Real were needed to be packaged with Windows up to 98 in order to make it a passible media experience. |
| #10 By 19992 (68.69.127.19) at 2/25/2004 7:42:21 PM |
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"So you implying that Linux people work on non-paying uninteresting projects for purely ideological reasons? Sounds dumb to me. "
That's because working on a boring project for an idealogical reason is dumb. I don't think that most Linux developers are doing this for purely ideological reasons, I have a feeling that most Linux developers have a great amount of interest in what they are doing on the Linux kernel. The point is that people will take a job for less money if the job fits their life better. The reasons are myriad, and a company offering the most pay on very interesting projects is not necessarily going to attract the best personnel. Most people are not purely motivated by having the largest paycheck on the most interesting project possible. #16 It is entirely possible to be a fan of the software and not agree with everything the company does. "Please enlighten us on the reasons for your presence here" Sure, I'm looking for news on Windows 2003 and Exchange 2003. Primarily tips and links to where I can find more information on actual benchmarks, not sales material. |
| #11 By 3339 (64.160.58.135) at 2/25/2004 7:57:45 PM |
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"The only reason Real was needed ..."
What about the fact that they had the only decent streaming format? Also, and? Microsoft didn't even have ANY media formats that they hadn't purchased, certainly no streaming format, and everyone had a non-standard format except the omnipresent mpeg, wav, aiff, and midi formats.... (avi was a mess of non-standard implementations and none of these formats mentioned by name had a streaming format/technology at the time). So... yeah... the only reason you needed Real was because it was the most widespread and best streaming format at the time, at a time when there was a sea of proprietary standards... That's like saying the only reason I need Office is because it's so dominant. No sh!t. This post was edited by sodajerk on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at 20:02. |
| #12 By 19992 (66.101.204.156) at 2/26/2004 8:03:39 AM |
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Parker - You are twisting my words. Here is my quote again, I'll add some emphasis for you.
Most people are not purely motivated by having the largest paycheck on the most interesting project possible. Pay does come into play, but it is not 100% of the equation. This post was edited by happyguy on Thursday, February 26, 2004 at 09:53. |
| #13 By 19992 (67.109.141.156) at 2/26/2004 12:00:03 PM |
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"How can I twist your words when I quoted you properly?"
Because you are ignoring parts of the quote. "I think you are just weaselling out of a dumb statement." Actually, I want you to use common sense on this one. " Most people like interesting projects. If you offer people an interesting project that pays more than a boring project, I know which one most would take." No you don't. Add this to your scenario. The interesting job is in Chernobyl and the less interesting job is in Hawaii. There is more to the decision making process than salary and what the projecty entails. Or look at it this way. The interesting project has no health insurance whereas the less interesting project have 100% medical, dental and vision. "ANd I still think that Bill Gates is smart enogh to know that if he increases the supply of people good at technology his company will have a good shot at recruiting the ones they want by offerring them good salaries and interesting projects. " I never stated otherwise. |
| #14 By 19992 (67.109.141.156) at 2/26/2004 1:04:11 PM |
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"The stupidity of that example leaves me speechless. "
I'll grant that this is an extreme example, dwelling within the realms of the ridiculous. However, you seem unable or unwilling to discuss this topic logically, so a large dash of the absurd seemed warranted. |
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