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  Calling out Microsoft on spam
Time: 09:26 EST/14:26 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Robert Stein

Debra Bowen may hail from a Southern California coastal enclave a few hundred miles south of Silicon Valley, but that's just the right distance from which to lob a few bombs at the Redmond, Wash.-based software company. The Redondo Beach state senator thinks Microsoft has a bad attitude when it comes to spam. As a California legislator for the past 10 years, Bowen has drafted and introduced bills intended to tie spammers' hands and better protect consumers' privacy. But more recently, she has criticized Microsoft for lobbying against certain spam bills, including one she championed.

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#1 By 7797 (63.76.44.252) at 9/3/2003 5:21:21 PM
What? No whitty comments from the peanut gallery?

#2 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 9/3/2003 6:07:58 PM
There's no need for wittticisms when she's dead on right in a clear, straightforward manner. Of course, MS is being a huge hypocrite about spam -- hotmail and exchange helped grow spam, they want to pretend to fight it (but not eliminate it), so they can sell you on junk mail features and new spam features for Exchange. Obvious.

Big Ups to Redondo!!!

#3 By 7797 (64.244.109.161) at 9/3/2003 11:09:48 PM
sj, well thats why i was asking, because usually they find a way to spin ANYTHING.

#4 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 9/4/2003 2:14:44 PM
And that bill is an opt-out rather than an opt-in bill. Extremely different--you are getting safe and delicate glad handing from the lady from Redondo, parker.

See, tgnb, you just have to know how to get the softies twitching.

#5 By 7390 (198.246.16.251) at 9/4/2003 2:53:12 PM
Jerky boy, your abililty to twist anything into an anti-Microsoft slant is uncanny.

Yet in the past you have stated that your income comes from Microsoft technology. Show some guts and quit your job and take one that doesn't use their technology. But alas you won't, you will continue to bash them and praise Apple. Even though they feed you.

#6 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 9/4/2003 7:14:47 PM
RedHook, is there anything about your job that you don't like, anything at all? And yet you still work there? The HORROR!!

Computer platform is a small part, in fact almost inconsequential part, of how or why I choose to work where I do.

parker, are you dense? Opt-out as in I have to opt-out of every spam I receive first rather than a marketer needing your approval first.

In the case of the do not call work, it works opposite because when you opt out, you are on a list that all telemarketers must reference. But I get tired of explaining everything I say to you.

#7 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 9/4/2003 8:38:06 PM
"Both bills are identical in that regard."

NO, they are exactly opposite.

And, yes, you are proving my point: MS would rather sue a company for more money while allowing them to clog the internet than actually prevent the spam in the first place. They want to string you along, they want to make money.

#8 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 9/4/2003 8:38:51 PM
"Both bills are identical in that regard."

NO, they are exactly opposite.

And, yes, you are proving my point: MS would rather sue a company for more money while allowing them to clog the internet than actually prevent the spam in the first place. They want to string you along, they want to make money.

#9 By 7797 (64.244.109.161) at 9/4/2003 11:23:08 PM
Parker:

Do Not Call List = Solicitors have to reference a list of phone numbers before attempting to call you. If your name is on the list then they cannot call you. Period.

Opt-Out = Solicitors can email you WITHOUT referencing a list of email addresses and only have to give you the opportunity to Opt out of future mailings from them. you have to individually opt out for each person who decides to send you spam instead of putting your name on 1 list to stop all spam.

You are the moron who is getting humiliated with such little effort.

#10 By 7797 (63.76.44.252) at 9/5/2003 12:53:30 PM
parker, maybe you should read the actual bill instead of relying on nothing but an article about it. I don't care what youre article says. I've read the bill and it is opt-out as stated above.
Go find the bill, read it.. and then come back and post.

This post was edited by tgnb on Friday, September 05, 2003 at 12:54.

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