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  Sun tools aimed at Microsoft coders
Time: 00:27 EST/05:27 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Robert Stein

Sun Microsystems will describe on Wednesday new software designed to make its Java programming tools more popular with smaller businesses. With "Rave," Sun is trying to match the speed with which programmers can use Microsoft tools such as Visual Studio.Net to create comparatively simple programs for servers, said Rich Green, Sun's vice president of developer platforms. The first version of the software should go on sale in the first half of 2004, he said.

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#1 By 20 (67.9.179.51) at 6/10/2003 12:44:17 AM
*sigh* How pathetic.

Sun had about a 10 year head start on Microsoft with Java and all they could produce in that amount of time was nothing. They had to take over NetBeans from another group, they couldn't even get their own IDE going.

They could've practically copied Visual Studio 6 and captured a huge portion of developers and entrenched them for the upcoming battle with MS and .NET.

Now they're having to play catch-up after .NET has been on the market somewhat slightly less than a year, or has it been a year already? Regardless, it's simply pathetic that Sun is this slow and worthless.

#2 By 8273 (4.47.72.198) at 6/10/2003 2:31:45 AM
The first version of the software should go on sale in the first half of 2004, he said.

Ooooh, I get to put my projects on hold for a year until SUN makes available the tools I need today. I am going to tell my boss tomorrow that I am taking the next year off until they are ready.

#3 By 16451 (65.19.16.219) at 6/10/2003 9:40:00 AM
#1 >>> They could've practically copied Visual Studio 6...

I do believe there are laws against that knind of thing.

#2 >>> I am going to tell my boss tomorrow that I am taking the next year off until they are ready

I would imagine his response will be, "You're fired."

#3 >>> There is ONLY one tool for devs, it's called Visual Studio

You lead a very sheltered existence, my friend.

#4 >>> Here we go, another big-slow-Java IDE on the scene!

It sounds like you have beta tested the product. Perhaps you could have ActiveWin publish your review?

#4 By 2 (12.226.188.99) at 6/10/2003 10:16:45 AM
lol

#5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/10/2003 10:50:26 AM
Oh come on. Sun had to do something. They're getting their behinds whipped in the market.

Yeah, they should have done this 3 years ago, but better late than never.

#6 By 16451 (65.19.17.168) at 6/10/2003 8:54:38 PM
Even if I were to accept your axiom, not all Java IDEs are built using Swing.

I'm still looking for your review that documents the "big-slow-Java" nature of Rave.

This post was edited by RH7.3 on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 20:57.

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