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HighMAT™ PC Viewer for Windows XP® HighMAT™ Extension for Windows XP® CD Writing Wizard These downloads are available in English and Japanese language versions from the Downloads section of the HighMAT website.
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| #1 By 415 (199.8.71.121) at 5/9/2003 2:58:47 PM |
| No doubt dude, I just got a Panasonic 5 disc changer in September... I don't regret it though... |
| #2 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 5/9/2003 3:54:22 PM |
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What's so compelling about it? The "formats allowed in HighMAT are currently limited to MP3, WMA, WMV, MPEG-4 (in ASF format), and JPEG." Whereas I can burn a DVD with video and audio tracks now that will play on any DVD; what is a DVD player going to do with docs in any other format?
As for viewing DVD data on the PC, is it really all that confusing which files are what and how to play/open them? |
| #3 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 5/9/2003 4:52:16 PM |
| But becker, it hardly supports most formats. Hell, it only supports mpeg-4 recorded as ASF!! For Christ's sake. And what is a conventional DVD player going to do with non-audio/video data? Probably nothing for quite some time. And if you are burning DVDs at this time, you are probably creating an interface (with chapters, selections, etc...) Why would you drop a few jpegs, a few asfs, a couple of mp3s, and a wma file on a DVD without any cues when every DVD creation app provides those tools? That's rather lame and uninteresting--anyone making DVDs now can create a TOC that will allow the end-user to play these file types now anyway. |
| #4 By 415 (199.8.71.121) at 5/9/2003 5:02:23 PM |
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This just in...
HighMATS' new slogan: "HighMAT, if you see the forest through the trees..." |
| #5 By 3653 (209.149.57.116) at 5/9/2003 5:51:47 PM |
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I guess sodajerk noticed the Microsoft logos on highMATs website... thus his instant opinion.
"no need to think this one through... I just saw MS' logo" |
| #6 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 5/9/2003 6:04:35 PM |
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mooresa, I didn't "just notice" anything. I've known from the very beginning that this is a two-pronged attempt: push MS formats on commercial DVD devices, and two, resolve the issue that Windows has with a DVD looking very strange when inserted to a PC if it contains numerous filetypes.
The second problem doesn't exist on the Mac. And the former I have always been opposed to. Why would anyone care about the adoption of a "standard" that only supports MS formats and the actual true standards (if encoded in MS's format)? There's no question. Doesn't matter about a name or anything--I just see zero use for this. |
| #7 By 2459 (69.22.78.22) at 5/9/2003 6:33:51 PM |
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Why would anyone care about the adoption of a "standard" that only supports MS formats and the actual true standards (if encoded in MS's format)? There's no question.
Kinda like Apple's claims of adopting MPEG4 while convieniently wrapping it in Quicktime, or just continuing to use Sorenson instead wherever possible. |
| #8 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 5/9/2003 6:41:02 PM |
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Apple has adopted mpeg-4. I can record directly to mpeg-4. I can play non-QT mpeg-4. So what's the problem?
And besides, what does Apple's choice for themselves have to do with pushing a standard on the entire consumer electronics industry? Oh, it doesn't--you are just avoiding the fact that HighMAT does jsut about nothing useful and is clearly an attempt by MS to push its formats on other companies, other industries. |
| #9 By 2459 (69.22.78.22) at 5/9/2003 6:48:25 PM |
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And besides, what does Apple's choice for themselves have to do with pushing a standard on the entire consumer electronics industry?
Maybe that, as much as they "push it," they don't actually use it in a way that separates the user from Quicktime. Oh, it doesn't--you are just avoiding the fact that HighMAT does jsut about nothing useful and is clearly an attempt by MS to push its formats on other companies, other industries. No, you, as always, are ignoring the usefulness of a technology simply because MS is associated with it. |
| #10 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 5/9/2003 6:54:13 PM |
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enforcer, you've really got to do some research, man. I can save movies/files to these formats:
AIFF AU AVI BMP DV Stream FLC Image Sequence movie exporters JPEG/JFIF JPEG 2000 (Mac OS X only) MacPaint MIDI MPEG-4 Photoshop PICT PNG QuickTime Image QuickTime Movie SGI System 7 Sound Targa Text TIFF WAV I can import/read these formats: 3DMF AIFF AU Audio CD Data (Macintosh) AVI BMP Cubic VR DLS DV FlashPix* FLC GIF JPEG/JFIF Karaoke MacPaint Macromedia Flash 5 MIDI MPEG-1 MP3(MPEG-1, Layer 3) M3U(MP3 Playlist files) MPEG-2** MPEG-4 (MP4) Photoshop* PICS PICT PLS PNG QuickTime Image File QuickTime Movie SF2 (SoundFont 2) SGI Sound Targa Text TIFF* TIFF Fax Virtual Reality (VR) Wave This does not include the numerous other audio and video codecs that can be wrapped in these available formats. But I'll list those codecs too if you want. I should note that * denotes that multiple images or layers can be preserved. And ** denotes that the mpeg-2 codec must be purchased separately--however, of course, it is included for playback/decoding with the DVD Player. This post was edited by sodajerk on Friday, May 09, 2003 at 18:56. |
| #11 By 2459 (69.22.78.22) at 5/9/2003 7:17:54 PM |
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Sodajerk, clearly you didn't understand my statement. I said,
Maybe that, as much as they "push it," they don't actually use it in a way that separates the user from Quicktime. IOW, Apple talks a lot about MPEG4 at practically every conference, but in their use of it (or lack thereof), they never use standard MPEG4 in its standard container. Even the webcasts of said conferences where they extol the great benefits of MPEG4 aren't broadcast in the standard format. Probably the one place where they do use the standard codec is their music store. |
| #12 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 5/9/2003 7:33:22 PM |
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oh, okay, now the ability to encode/decode, import/export doesn't matter. Whatever. They support a lot more formats than Microsoft does, that's simple and clear, so how this is a valid criticism I do not understand.
And this is still a distraction from my criticism which you haven't addressed. Particularly, since I had no complaint with any MS software only encoding in wma/wmv... I am only addressing the issue of this being a "standard" for the "industry." Not what a particular company uses or not. |
| #13 By 2459 (69.22.78.22) at 5/9/2003 9:18:35 PM |
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You are still failing to see what I mean. You cannot exprtt/import what you cannot record. The content distributed by Apple that can be locally stored requires the commercial version of Quicktime or another application to transcode.
Apple tries to maintain the appearance of pushing the MPEG4 standard, yet none of their distributed content, besides that of their music store, conforms to that standard. In short, it's called "practice what you preach". So far, Apple has done the preaching, but in the vast majority of cases, leaves the actual practicing to others in the industry. And this is still a distraction from my criticism which you haven't addressed. Particularly, since I had no complaint with any MS software only encoding in wma/wmv... I am only addressing the issue of this being a "standard" for the "industry." Not what a particular company uses or not. And how is this different from any other industry standard for digital playback/distribution of the past or present? CD, CD+G, VCD, SVCD, DVD, etc., all required/require data to have a specific structure and format for the playback of content. All of these standards limit standard content to only a small number of formats. HighMAT is no different. |
| #14 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 5/13/2003 5:55:57 PM |
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You are the one not getting it. If MS wants to distribute content that only works on HighMAT discs and devices that's fine. That's not the issue. They are pushing it as a standard for everyone. And it only supports their formats. This is very different from Apple. Apple says--support this standard and it will play on our devices, hardware, and software. I don't see how that's similar at all.
"And how is this different from any other industry standard for digital playback/distribution of the past or present? CD, CD+G, VCD, SVCD, DVD, etc., all required/require data to have a specific structure and format for the playback of content. All of these standards limit standard content to only a small number of formats." Baloney--you are naming media standards that were created before a digital standard existed, or standards created by consortia to support the agreed upon standards, or which actually support numerous formats not controlled by the original creator. HighMAT is a "standard" for media which already supports all of the "prescribed by MS" formats and MANY, MANY, MANY more formats but only supports MS formats and MS is trying to push it on the industry. Again, how is this an appropriate analogy at all? Not similar in the least. |
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