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  Xbox Linux group seeks Microsoft seal
Time: 16:40 EST/21:40 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Bill Roach

The group of programmers working to run Linux on Microsoft's Xbox video game console is seeking the software giant's seal of approval. In an open letter sent to Microsoft, the organizers of the Xbox Linux Project requested that the software giant "sign" its Xbox version of the open-source operating sytem. Microsoft's electronic signature would allow the software to run on an unmodified Xbox. Currently, an Xbox must be outfitted with a "mod chip"--a gray-market add-on that overrides security features in the console--to run Linux or any other unapproved software. Microsoft has pursued a variety of legal and technical means to thwart mod chips, on the grounds that the devices aid software piracy.

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#1 By 665 (64.126.91.172) at 2/19/2003 4:46:47 PM
Haha... now come on, do they really thinking asking real nice is going to do anything?

#2 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 2/19/2003 5:00:42 PM
Predicted response from Microsoft HQ: "No."

This post was edited by Cthulhu on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 17:01.

#3 By 2459 (24.170.151.19) at 2/19/2003 5:08:10 PM
Followed by uncontrolled laughter :-)

#4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 2/19/2003 5:39:19 PM
Microsoft is very likely going to say no.

And the reason is quite simple. If the XBox becomes a general purpose computing device, then Microsoft is now competing against OEMs. OEMs won't be happy with that.

Now maybe if it were released in a crippled form, like the PS2 version of Linux.

#5 By 7390 (198.246.16.251) at 2/19/2003 5:53:22 PM
The Xbox Linux Project letter notes that Microsoft could score some extra cash by signing the group's software. "You may not be aware that Project B of the Xbox Linux prize includes up to $100,000 for a person or company which allows Xbox Linux to boot on an unmodded box," the letter says. "Microsoft will be eligible to apply for an award under this scheme if they approve Xbox Linux as a normal Xbox program."

ROFL
that has to be one of the funniest things that I have ever read

and boy that $100,000 would come in handy for Microsoft.



#6 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 2/19/2003 7:04:59 PM
It's been asked, there's just no reason to say it out loud, we know the answer:

because it will move against the Wintel system and anger and cannabalize OEMs

because it will further increase the cost of XBox and cannabalize Windows sales

That's what you call a lose-lose-lose-lose situation.

#7 By 7826 (68.100.63.48) at 2/19/2003 9:08:35 PM
Microsoft already makes a big loss on Xbox hardware sale. It's hope to make up that loss from the sales of XBox games. That's big reason why Microsoft will firmly reject this linux thing.

#8 By 1845 (12.209.152.69) at 2/19/2003 9:10:29 PM
Xbox is already running Windows 2000. Do they need to make a different version of Windows run on Xbox? Xbox is a game console, designed to play games. End of story.

#9 By 7390 (63.211.44.114) at 2/19/2003 9:35:35 PM
#9 Bobsmith, that sounds to simple to be true

Xbox as a game console designed to play, by using"off the shelf" components in an attempt to reduce cost.

it's will never work, there must be an open-source/java/linux/monopoly/XP/Linus Torvald scheme there some where.

#10 By 1845 (12.209.152.69) at 2/19/2003 11:53:14 PM
cb, is is accurrate to say what I said. Microsoft specifically designed and architected the Xbox as a gaming machine. That doesn't mean it is not capable of doing other things, but these other things were not intended when it was designed.

#11 By 135 (208.50.206.187) at 2/20/2003 12:15:12 AM
cba-3.14 - "It's not accurate to say the Xbox was designed to play games."

Actually it is accurate to say that since the XBox architecture deviates quite a bit from that found in your typical PC in ways which are solely intended to improve it's operation as a game platform.

I don't know why people like you need to spin everything so that it's anti-Microsoft. Why not just deal with reality?

#12 By 12071 (203.217.17.60) at 2/20/2003 7:06:42 AM
#13 Soda, cba never said anything anti-microsoft, why do you have to overreact like that? He was just stating that the xbox, in very simple terms is a pc that's optimized for gaming and identical, meaning that developers know EXACTLY what they are writin for rather than having to support a multitude of different system configurations and they know that when they go to test their game everyone who owns an xbox will get the same experience. Nothing anti-microsoft, relax. But yes there are a few differences between an xbox and a typical pc that you could build yourself that separates itself from a typical pc.

#13 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 2/20/2003 1:10:59 PM
I certainly don't care, but for the defenders of the sanctity of the Xbox, I have a question:

if MS opens Xbox up and provides PC or other non-game functionality, are you saying that people should have the right to install Linux?

#14 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 2/20/2003 3:16:13 PM
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