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Sun Internal Memo: The Java Problem | |
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| Time: 18:47 EST/23:47 GMT | News Source: E-Mail | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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While the Java language provides many advantages over C and C++, its implementation on Solaris presents barriers to the delivery of reliable applications. These barriers prevent general acceptance of Java for production software within Sun. A review of the problem indicates that these issues are not inherent to Java but instead represent implementation oversights and inconsistencies common to projects which do not communicate effectively with partners and users. Within Sun, the institutional mechanism for promoting this sort of communication between partners is the System Architecture Council codified in the Software Development Framework (SDF). We propose that the process of releasing our Java implementation will benefit from conformance with the SDF. | ||
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| #1 By 3653 (216.153.67.116) at 2/7/2003 7:10:00 PM |
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The memo looked over the utter lack of product direction or innovation. This post was edited by mooresa56 on Friday, February 07, 2003 at 19:10. |
| #2 By 11888 (64.230.79.251) at 2/7/2003 9:48:18 PM |
| Okay then #1, tell everyone here how to fix it instead of just bitching. |
| #3 By 143 (65.221.158.228) at 2/7/2003 10:43:08 PM |
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Help... Help....
There's a spot on the Sun! thanks Motz |
| #4 By 135 (208.50.206.187) at 2/7/2003 11:00:35 PM |
| Interesting. This does seem to be a key difference between Microsoft and Sun. MS is commited behind .NET. |
| #5 By 7390 (63.211.44.114) at 2/7/2003 11:43:41 PM |
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Let me get this straight, Sun's own developers are avoiding using Java on Solaris.
Then why should anyone use Java if internally they don't want to? |
| #6 By 3653 (216.153.67.116) at 2/8/2003 12:33:39 AM |
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Thanks AeroSnoop.
MrRoper... if I had the answers to Java's problems... I would be too rich to be so bored as to write comments on this board. |
| #7 By 531 (64.108.128.158) at 2/8/2003 5:17:44 PM |
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Java Software corrects bugs only by releasing an entire new version
Yikes. Imagine re-installing Windows everytime a bug came out? (I know, I know, .Net required the same thing with 1.1...) That's not quite accurate, kevinu. The .NET Framework 1.1 is not just a bugfix, it's a new version of the framework with new features. While I'm sure that there are some bugfixes in it, that's not all it is... so, in reality, you do not have to install a whole new version of .NET just to fix bugs... that what the .NET Service Packs are for. Aside from that, the .NET 1.1 framework can peacefully coexist with the 1.0 framework, so there won't be any application breakage, unless the app is trying to use the wrong version of the framework. I don't have enough experience with Java to know whether or not it can do the same thing, but I doubt that it can, otherwise this wouldn't be an issue... |
| #8 By 20 (24.243.41.64) at 2/9/2003 3:13:43 AM |
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Well, at least someone in Sun doesn't have their head up their ass, but I noticed they purposely left .NET out of here.
It seems that they are content with merely ignoring .NET or turning a blind eye to it. It will be their downfall. |
| #9 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 2/10/2003 12:48:11 AM |
| :-) |
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