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Posted By: Robert Stein |
OneStat.com today reported that Microsoft's Internet Explorer has a total global usage share of 95 percent. Microsoft's Internet Explorer continues to dominate the global browser market. The global usage share of Netscape is 3.0 percent and is the second most popular operating system in the world.
Microsoft's IE 6 is currently the leading browser on the web. Microsoft's IE 6 global usage has increased with 5.3 percent from 52.3 percent to 57.6 percent. The global usage share of Netscape 7 has increased with 0.1 percent from 0.5 to 0.6 percent. Mozilla's global usage share is 1.1 percent and Opera 6 has a global usage of 0.8 percent.
Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com’s services by using browser Y. All numbers mentioned in the research are averages of last month and all measurements are normalised to the GMT timezone. The last research regarding global usage shares of browsers was published on September 30 2002. Research is based on a sample of 2 million visitors divided into 20,000 visitors of 100 countries each day.
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#1 By
2332 (65.221.182.3)
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12/18/2002 12:26:12 AM
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#1 - Your point? What rendering engine a browser uses doesn't identify it to a web server... that's the job of the user-agent HTTP header.
#2 - If by "scientifically" you mean it was done in a repeatable manner, then yes, I would say it was fairly scientific.
The potential problems I see are whether or not they can guaruntee a valid and sufficently random sample, and the fact they didn't list their uncertainty anywhere.
Still, 95% is a fairly commanding lead, no matter what the uncertainty turns out to be... and I would find it very hard to believe that as massive a lead as that is the result of a sampling error.
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#2 By
3653 (65.190.70.73)
at
12/18/2002 12:40:32 AM
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another example of the best product winning.
and thank you Microsoft, for saving us millions of dollars in Netscape Communicator license fees.
This post was edited by mooresa56 on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 00:41.
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#3 By
2960 (156.80.64.132)
at
12/18/2002 8:19:14 AM
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#4,
I am in agreement with you, up to version 5.01.
Unfortunately, starting with version 5.5, MSIE has slowly been turned into a tugboat.
It's slow, unresponsive, crash-happy, and it only gets worse with each version now.
Though I use it every day, I HATE MSIE 6.0. For one, it doesn't give the solid feed-back as to what's going on. Half the time when loading a site, the 'e' stops spinning, but there's still junk going on in the background and the wait is extensive sometimes before you actually have control over the page.
It also loves to lock you out when loading pages. It'll sit there and won't let you cancel or do anything until it decides to give you back control.
And here is my biggest gripe. I do a LOT of HTML emailing based on web pages. It's a business thing. Prior to MSIE 6.0, when I used MAPI Send-To to email a page, it would automatically put the embedded web pages name in the subject line. That was perfect for me.
Starting with MSIE 6, it puts gibberish in the Subject line. I typically see things like "Emailing: 34445, 2323994;xxqxer or some other some such nonsense.
Why the hell did the change THAT ?
MSIE 5.01 was a GREAT browser. Light on it's feet, fast and stable. MSIE 6 is a pig.
I don't have any problems with how it renders pages. It does that great. Getting the page is the problem, along with the bugs and other oddities that version 6 introduced.
I still use it only because it still renders pages better than Mozilla. Mozilla is catching up FAST, though, and Mozilla has overall better features.
TL
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#4 By
2960 (156.80.64.132)
at
12/18/2002 8:20:58 AM
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"The upgrade price for Windows has always been trivial. It still works out to about 10 cents a day if you upgrade after 3 years. "
Hehe. Using that thought process, my Mortgage is trivial too. You just spread it out over 100 years.
TL
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#5 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/18/2002 9:56:10 AM
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Tech,
In my experience, I have found IE 5.5 and IE 6.x to be superior in stability and usability when compared to IE 4.x and IE 5.01. Also make note that IE 6 was actually a smaller download than the previous versions, making it "less" of a tug boat than IE 5.01 and 5.0.
I never get crashes with IE 6, I get solid feedback, I never see the globe stop spinning when pages are loading, and I never have been locked out of a page that couldn't load for some reason...hitting stop worked flawlessly. I actually found IE 5.0 and IE 5.01 to be pigs and unresponsive at many times.
I also find that Mozilla LACKS many of the good features that are implemented better in IE. Mozilla's only advantage is the "built-in" pop up killer. That can already be done in IE by disabling Active X controls or by a free add-on. Outside of that, Mozilla, IMO, fails to compete with IE in ease of use, features, page loading, startup and stability.
Keep in mind, this is my opinion. Obviously your experience has differed...which is no surprise. Many people have many different experiences. With IE 6 commanding more and more of the market each day (over 57%), and the latest service pack fixes, it has been a very impressive browser for millions and millions of people.
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#6 By
1845 (12.209.152.69)
at
12/18/2002 10:58:43 AM
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I can live without tabbed browsing. In fact, tabbed browsing really bugs me.
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#7 By
20 (24.243.41.64)
at
12/18/2002 11:21:45 AM
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I've tried to use tabbed browsing, I really have. I forced myself to use Mozilla for 1 week. Then I forced myself to use CrazyBrowser (a browser that has the IE engine as the core, but has a new interface that has tabs and such) for 1 week.
It drove me nuts, I couldn't stand it. I usually have a page up while I'm developing, and to switch between pages, I used to ALT+TAB to the IE instance of the docs I was reading. Sometimes I'd have to hit it repeatedly to find the right IE instance.
With tabs, I must ALT+TAB, then CTRL+TAB one or more times which is annoying.
The tabs just get in my way, I don't understand the point.
- Cookies
I frequently clear my cookies anyhow, so I found the Mozilla cookie feature rather useless.
- Images
I couldn't figure out what the point of this was in the first place. I have no problem with images.
- Master password feature
I don't store my passwords. This is useless and stupid
- Advanced Javascript
I've been developing web apps for IE for years and I find the Javascript in IE just fine. The errors pop up, I click next,next, next to cycle through them.
I've used Mozilla's Javascript console. It's neat, it's cool, but gives me no extra benefit whatsoever
- Connection pipelining
If this is the "make pages load slower" feature, I can do without it. I like my pages to render fast like in IE.
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#8 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/18/2002 12:52:00 PM
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IE is free, even for Windows. Prior to Windows bundling IE and integerating it into the system, IE was free. In addition, the price of Windows didn't change when IE was bundled.
All the features that were mentioned on the previous page about Mozilla are available in IE, just a different way about getting them.
I can't stand tabbed browsing. I prefer ALT+TAB browsing. BUT, MyIE2 is a very excellent addin for IE to add tabbed browser windows.
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#9 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/18/2002 1:26:36 PM
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All these options are available under Tools>Internet Options as well as many free add-ons that are downloadable that will accomplish anything that is not available in the Internet Options dialog box.
HTH
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#10 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
at
12/18/2002 1:39:45 PM
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The initial announcements of Netscape by Andreessen mentioned they were going to give the browser away for free because the money was in the servers.
There just appears to be some confusion... I wonder if the people claiming Netscape sold the browser were even around back when this was all going on?
Who here actually remembers Mosaic being the only browser available?
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#11 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/18/2002 1:50:56 PM
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Let's try this again,
All these options are available under Tools>Internet Options as well as many free add-ons that are downloadable that will accomplish anything that is not available in the Internet Options dialog box.
HTH
It "should" help. MyIE2 is an EASY to use FREE addon that is EASY to configure. If you can't find these options yourself, than you have not fully used IE's ability.
HTH again.
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#12 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/18/2002 2:03:18 PM
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I never claimed it irrelevant. I am saying IE 6 is "capable" of offering the same features as M1.2.1. AND it's available NOW, and FREE. Just like Mozilla.
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#13 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/18/2002 2:12:13 PM
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So it sounds like we are on the same page then.
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#14 By
7754 (216.160.8.41)
at
12/18/2002 3:16:24 PM
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Hey, bas, how about some features available in IE that aren't available in Mozilla? How about the ability to control all the IE settings on your network via Group Policy at the click of a mouse?
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#15 By
7754 (216.160.8.41)
at
12/18/2002 3:42:09 PM
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I did read from comment #1, bas, and many have commented that those features are available--if desired--through downloading a free utility. Why don't you address my point? Managing IE on a corporate network is a breeze. That's a huge feature. No two sets of programs are going to match feature-for-feature. I'd take manageability over "loop animated GIFs once," "master password," etc., any day of the week.
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#16 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
at
12/18/2002 5:02:57 PM
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bas - "Well I do. Since I hate cookies."
I'll bet you don't know why considering cookies serve a purpose.
"Does the Windows API allow developers to write extensions (or plugins?) so that administrator can install them and use it to add extra _restrictions_ and control the users for non-MS software using the 'Group Policy' editor?"
Group Policy editor just pushes out registry changes, and it's trivial to add custom ones.
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#17 By
7754 (216.160.8.41)
at
12/18/2002 5:55:50 PM
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bas, by your reasoning, since the ability to manage configurations isn't already available with Mozilla at install time, it doesn't have that feature. It would be possible to create an .adm file to control Mozilla... provided that all the configuration information is stored in the registry. I have used Mozilla before (and was impressed, though I still prefer IE), but I didn't look into it enough to see where the configuration information was stored. IIRC, Netscape 4.x had some of the configuration information stored in files in its directory.
However, one of the nice things about configuring IE via Group Policy is that, say, if you set the configuration for the "Connections" tab of Tools>Internet Options, the tab disappears for the end user. It cleans things up nicely and keeps them out of areas that they shouldn't touch.
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#18 By
7754 (216.160.8.41)
at
12/18/2002 6:20:07 PM
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Precisely why it is not nearly as nice to manage as IE. There's no granular control--you can't enforce one setting but allow user control over another. And, if you need to make a configuration change, you must overwrite the entire file--wiping out any user-configurable settings.
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#19 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/19/2002 9:28:42 AM
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"IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY "OS PRODUCT" (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,"
Sounds free to me. EULA for *any* OS Product. Every OS has a EULA.
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#20 By
37 (66.82.20.150)
at
12/19/2002 2:32:38 PM
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Let's try that again for you Ceazar...but a little slower:
"IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ********ANY***** "OS PRODUCT" (********INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,"
HTH.
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#21 By
37 (24.196.75.142)
at
12/20/2002 7:42:45 AM
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#56 How about we go this S L O W for you. Sometimes I do run into lawyers, especially in the law school that I attend.
L E T S start with the basics for you, so you can understand. First of all, we should work on your reading comprehension skills (or lack there of), and READ and understand the EULA and what constitutes an "OS". Once you have figured that out, then we can talk again.
If you need directions as how to find the EULA, I will copy paste those instructions below:
"Supplemental End User License Agreement for Microsoft Software
Your use of Microsoft products is governed by the terms of the End User License Agreement (EULA), as well as by copyright law. The EULA is the contract regarding your use of the licensed product, and it grants you certain rights to use Microsoft software on your computer.
To View the EULA for Internet Explorer
If you are using Windows NT or Windows 98, you can view the EULA by double-clicking license.txt in the directory where you installed Internet Explorer. The default location for installing Internet Explorer is C:/Program Files/Internet Explorer.
If you are using Windows Millennium Edition, Windows 2000, or Windows XP, see Windows Help for more information about the EULA.
Note
If you are not sure where to find the EULA for Internet Explorer, you can search for license.txt, and then open the version of license.txt in the directory where you installed Internet Explorer. For more information about searching in Windows, see Windows Help."
Once you have covered these prerequisite bases, post back and we can discuss the legalities and the understanding of EULA's.
HTH
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