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Is Microsoft Truly 'Trustworthy'? | |
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| Time: 10:33 EST/15:33 GMT | News Source: Wired | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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Be afraid. Microsoft thinks it knows what's best for you. Microsoft Senior Vice President Craig Mundie recently suggested that in the name of security, it may be appropriate to force you to install Microsoft patches or updates, and if that breaks your existing applications, well, it's for your own good. This cavalier and astoundingly risky attitude apparently springs from Microsoft's new homeland-security bandwagon -- what we used to call "national security," before political spin-meisters figured "homeland" would better inspire consumer spending for the new war on terror. | ||
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| #1 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 11/25/2002 11:17:53 AM |
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# - Agreed. ANY mission critical application server should have a duplicate test server (which can also double as a backup server if the primary goes down) that is an exact copy of the primary.
Some would interject saying "but why should I have to have TWO servers when one works fine? It costs twice as much!" Well, guess what, one DOESN'T work fine. If you're running mission critical apps without a backup, you're an idiot. It's as simple as that. Computers go down for many reasons, including ones that cannot be avoided. (Heatsink falls off --> CPU melts?, power supply dies, etc.). These backups can serve as your test bed as well. And, in reality, it doesn't cost more in the long run. Which do you think has a great financial impact? Buy two servers for, say, $100,000 each. Or having your entire business haulted for several days because of either a hardware failure or a faulty patch. The fact is, it's impossible to predict how a software patch will interact with every possible combination of hardware and software. That's one reason why DataCenter is an all-in-one solution... so Microsoft can know exactly what the patch will do to all available hardware configs. |
| #2 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 11/25/2002 3:57:26 PM |
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Let's use a real-world analogy....
You own a store. Every night you lock the front door to the store, but you leave the back door unlocked so that your employees can easily get into work the next morning. One day a thief realizes that you don't lock the back door, and advertises this fact on the Internet. Now the solution to this is to start locking the back door, however that presents a problem because your employees do not have keys to the store so they can't get back into work in the morning. Microsoft is saying "tough, go get some keys made and hand them out." Some people are whining because they now have to carry keys to work. |
| #3 By 20 (24.243.41.64) at 11/25/2002 4:12:37 PM |
| Everyone, Wired is a Mac propagandist magazine/site. They use Macs. Please don't expect them to think logically, especially about any type of enterprise system. |
| #4 By 4209 (67.97.216.252) at 11/25/2002 4:12:54 PM |
| I beg to differ. Our main application server is not duplicated in a test environment. Then again it is not a windows or Linux/Unix box. It is an AS/400 and it gets updated after tested by the outside application vendor. Should we have a backup server? Yes we should but it is hard to justify $100,000 for a server that will do nothing for most of its life. Can we duplicate our environment on a server on the WAN? We certainly can. Now for Windows yes you should have a backup server, even if it is not as robust as the primary, you can always do business on a smaller server that may be a little slower. As you wait for you current one to be fixed or replaced. But do not assume everyone has a backup test server. Most big Environments have ones at the Corporate offices, but the Local Business Unit does not. |
| #5 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/25/2002 6:49:15 PM |
| I think there is a difference between a zealot and a troll. Perhaps, there is a difference between a troll and a big green ugly troll. beeyp was a big green ugly troll, but I wouldn't say that eagle isn't also a troll (though not big green and ugly). |
| #6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/25/2002 6:59:09 PM |
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kev,
Let's look at the quote: Microsoft is the best operating system, unless you are going to trust mission critical processing to some freeware mess with no support. Microsoft does not release patches without testing themselves. First of all, Microsoft isn't an operating system. They are a vendor of operating systems. Second, there are a great many companies that trust mission critical processing to Linux. Perhaps I'm mistaken in assuming that "some freeware mess" means Linux. I'll join Steve Ballmer in eating that floppy disk if I'm wrong. Third, you can get just as much support for Linux as you can for Windows. Premium support for either system has a price tag. Perhaps Windows has lower TCO, but then TCO wasn't what eagle was talking about. (What the heck was he talking about? Oh, he was just spouting drivel, but not really saying anything.) Fourth, if support means patches and hotfixes as opposed to techician support (via telephone, email or in person), then he's wrong again. Anyone is free to download the latest patches for Linux just as they are for Windows. No difference that I see. Fifth, the implication that Linux vendors don't test patches before issuing them is laughable. Further, it is a claim that I doubt eagle (as with all of his other comments) can provide any evidence for. For the record, I wouldn't touch a Linux box with a 10 foot pole, but still, rediculous comments like eagle's do nothing to help Microsoft's cause. Non logic is detrement a to either side of the cause. |
| #7 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/26/2002 2:54:51 AM |
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eagle, I mean kaboom. , you are a troll and we don't want to hear from you.
You've gone to the trouble of creating 4 ID's (two of them in the last few days), so you can say a whole lot of nothing. Give it a rest, OK? baarod, you make me laugh. I'm quite enjoying reading your posts, bro! |
| #8 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/26/2002 12:13:43 PM |
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eagle == kaboom. (note the period!)
kaboom (note the lack of period) == bas == beeyp In case you were wondering. |
| #9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/26/2002 12:15:47 PM |
| Dog, have you read Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets? I'm not degnoming the garden, I'm trying to detroll ActiveWin. Pick 'em up by the ankles, spin 'em around, and toss 'em into a new domain. :-) |
| #10 By 1845 (12.254.254.105) at 11/26/2002 8:50:52 PM |
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Yeah, it is pretty annoying that they come back. I'm getting kinda tired of abusing them though.
I was kind of wondering why you bothered to defend him. It's to your credit, though. |
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