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| Time: 19:46 EST/00:46 GMT | News Source: Windows & .NET Magazine | Posted By: Todd Richardson | ||
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Palladium may be the most misunderstood project Microsoft has ever devised. Maybe that's because the company divulged information about it more than 3 years before it will see the light of day. What is Palladium, and why should you be thinking about it now? Palladium is Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing initiative made real—a hardware/software solution that will form the basis of next-generation computer systems. Microsoft intends Palladium to protect user privacy and present a secure environment for sensitive data. Here's what you need to know about Palladium. | ||
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| #1 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/29/2002 10:07:55 PM |
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"Palladium may be the most misunderstood project Microsoft has ever devised."
That's an understatement :-) |
| #2 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 10/29/2002 11:55:49 PM |
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#2 - hahahaha... :-)
This is the first good analysis of Palladium I've seen yet. |
| #3 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/30/2002 12:49:31 AM |
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1) No 2)Yes, except Palladium-specific features. 3) Greater security. This post was edited by n4cer on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 00:49. |
| #4 By 3339 (64.175.40.247) at 10/30/2002 3:35:22 AM |
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enforcer, I love how you keep answering that: Palladium won't prevent you from doing something except for the Palladium-specific features, that is, they prevent it.
I love it, buddy, you crack me up! This post was edited by sodajerk on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 03:36. |
| #5 By 2960 (156.80.64.132) at 10/30/2002 9:07:43 AM |
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I don't trust it, I don't want it, they can keep it for themselves.
But then you already knew how I felt about this Ball & Chain technology... TL |
| #6 By 5444 (208.180.130.104) at 10/30/2002 10:14:47 AM |
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With Palladium, Certain Advanced features will be disabled if you don't use it.
The ability to Download and play protected content may be an example of this. But it would be a secured DRM feature that uses palladium technology not a Pallidium specific feature. Other things may be a lock down in Corporate Secure Communications. I see Palladium as more of a Corporate and Government Security Implementation with 2 of the Security features built in. (Hardware and software) Everyone in the Security industry knows that a Software only security feature doesn't lock down the system (and that is true of *nix also) So it really depends on how you look at it from a business standpoint. About 40% of the billing in the US is done over the internet today. By 2005 that is expected to be in the high to mid 80% and more corporations charging more to actually send a bill in the mail. The issue may be in Ripping new MP3's from copywrited CD's, All current MP3 have little info to distinguish them as being copywrited material or not. I would say if you rip a CD to MP3 on a non Palladium implemented computers that it would still be that way. Although with DVD Audio on the horzion, (2003) Ripping MP3s will be a non issue, you won't be able to do it. easily at first. DVD Blue will also introduce new copy protection technology, although that is at least a 2004 technology. The main issue with Palladium is that you personally are finally able to lock down your own personal Information in A sandbox on your own system. Don't know if you check recently but Identity theft is on the rise. El |
| #7 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/30/2002 11:22:25 AM |
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#11 -- The correct answer is:
Palladium FAQ http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/news/PallFAQ2.asp Palladium Business Overview http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/jul02/0724palladiumwp.asp Palladium Q & A http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2002/jul02/07-01palladium.asp Palladium mailing list Send e-mail to the "Palladium" information alias (pdinfo@microsoft.com) Palladium is NOT TCPA. There are several differences which make Palladium less restrictive. Any documentation that uses TCPA info as the bases for its conclusions about Palladium is likely to be wrong. |
| #8 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/30/2002 11:38:11 AM |
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From MS Palladium FAQ:
Q: So I won't be able to play any MP3s on my PC any more? A: You will. "Palladium" brings additional capabilities to the PC but does not interfere with the operation of any program that runs on current PCs. "Palladium" never imposes itself on processes that do not request its services; "Palladium" features must be requested by a program. So the MP3 player you have today will still work on a "Palladium"-enabled PC tomorrow. Palladium Business Overview: "Palladium" is an opt-in system. "Palladium" is entirely an opt-in solution; systems will ship with the "Palladium" hardware and software features turned off. The user of the system can choose to simply stay with this default setting, leaving all "Palladium"-related capabilities (hardware and software) disabled. Turning "Palladium" completely off includes turning it off in hardware, which prevents any software from turning it back on. Users have the ultimate control over their systems and their information; "Palladium" does not entail any global requirements. ----------------------- A "Palladium"-enhanced computer must continue to run any existing applications and device drivers. "Palladium" is not a separate operating system. It is based on architectural enhancements to the Windows kernel and to computer hardware, including the CPU, peripherals and chipsets, to create a new trusted execution subsystem (see Figure 1). "Palladium" will not eliminate any features of Windows that users have come to rely on; everything that runs today will continue to run with "Palladium." In addition, "Palladium" does not change what can be programmed or run on the computing platform; it simply changes what can be believed about programs, and the durability of those beliefs. Moreover, "Palladium" will operate with any program the user specifies while maintaining security. It is important to note that while today's applications and devices will continue to work in "Palladium," they will gain little to no benefit from "Palladium" services. To take advantage of "Palladium," existing applications must be adapted to utilize the "Palladium" environment or new applications must be written. This software - whether a component of a Microsoft Win32®-based application or a new application - is called a "Trusted Agent." ------------------ From the perspective of privacy (and anti-virus protection), one of the key benefits of "Palladium" is the ability for users to effectively delegate certification of code. Anyone can certify "Palladium" hardware or software, and it is expected that many companies and organizations will offer this service. Allowing multiple parties to independently evaluate and certify "Palladium"-capable systems means that users will be able to obtain verification of the system's operation from organizations that they trust. In addition, this will form the basis for a strong business incentive to preserve and enhance privacy and security. Moreover, "Palladium" allows any number of trusted internal or external entities to interact with a trusted component or trusted platform. |
| #9 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/30/2002 12:03:43 PM |
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Sodajerk, you have to look at Palladium like Direct 3D.
Both are APIs. Both require hardware support at some point for certain features. Say a DRMed WMA file uses some Palladium security feature through WMP to strengthen the effectiveness of the DRM. Because the DRM component is implemented totally in software, it can still run on a non-Palladium system. It just won't get the benefit of the extra security offered by Palladium. Say the content provider had the choice of requiring some aspect of Palladium because the WMA contained sensitive information (like a military communication), and by requiring a feature only offered by Palladium, the file could not be executed on a non-Palladium system. This is a case where turning Palladium off can impair your ability to use certain content. But that content has to be developed specifically for Palladium to get that protection. It would not apply to a normal, unprotected file, or a DRM file that doesn't require Palladium. To use the Direct3D analogy: You have a low-end video card. Existing Direct3D games can run on your video card. If you disable bumpmapping support on your video card, your games still run, but without the cool bumpmapping feature. But if a developer programmed his game in such a way that it required bumpmapping, this game would not run because you disabled support for a feature that was an absolute requirement in this case. This might be a slightly bad analogy, but the content holds true: Non-Palladium apps will continue to run the same whether you have Palladium or not. Apps that simply use Palladium features, but don't require them will run with or without Palladium. The only apps that will not run without Palladium are apps developed specifically for Palladium with a required featureset that only Palladium can offer. |
| #10 By 7760 (12.107.12.130) at 10/30/2002 2:58:59 PM |
| If you're really having problems comparing Palladium to anything, think "the MMX of security" for a rough idea of Palladium's role and purpose. Like MMX, Palladium will be used only if the software makes calls to it, just like MMX (and 3DNow, SSE and SSE2, for that matter). I think, though, that Palladium will have a far greater impact than MMX ever did. |
| #11 By 2960 (156.80.64.132) at 10/30/2002 3:36:06 PM |
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#11,
That article is awesome. It scares me too. Things are far worse than even I thought they were. If HALF of what's on that page ever comes about personal computing, as we know it, is done for. And some day someone will write a book entitled "How to destroy your own multi-trillion dollar industry through greed, control and corruption". TL |
| #12 By 2960 (156.80.64.132) at 10/30/2002 3:40:30 PM |
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"The main issue with Palladium is that you personally are finally able to lock down your own personal Information in A sandbox on your own system. "
Yeah, but you're making one hell of a deal with the devil to get it. No thanks. I'll handle my own security. TL |
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