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  Microsoft issues 61st alert this year
Time: 10:20 EST/15:20 GMT | News Source: VNUNet | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Microsoft has posted three further security alerts, this time for flaws in Word and Excel fields, Windows XP and SQL Server. The first vulnerability affects Word and Excel external updates, and could lead to information disclosure. The second relates to Windows XP help and support centre functions that could enable file deletion. Both are classified as 'moderate'. The third flaw, relating to the elevation of privileges in SQL Server web tasks, is rated 'critical'.

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#1 By 5948 (216.62.218.207) at 10/17/2002 12:54:11 PM
Thank you Microsoft for patching your products, unlike some other companies out there...

#2 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/17/2002 3:08:56 PM
Wait... let me check.

Oh my God! Would you believe 107?

On top of releasing about 15 new security bulletins in just the past week or two, I also just noticed that Redhat has them listed for a couple of other products beyond just their Linux distribution. Stronghold, Powertools, secure web server and so forth. They also stopped listing versions of Linux prior to 6.2 which came out in mid-2000.

So the new official tally:
Microsoft: 61
Redhat: 107

#3 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 3:47:17 PM
So does that mean Microsoft is more secure, because it had to issue less patches? or that Red Hat is more secure, because it has taken care of more problems?

#4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/17/2002 6:02:49 PM
BobSmith - I leave it as an excercise to the reader to make that conclusion. :)

beeyp has obviously made his own conclusion, and it didn't even require any facts.

#5 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 6:14:09 PM
lol @ sodablue. Tee hee.

#6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 7:17:55 PM
Ignoring the facts as usual, beeyp.

#7 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 8:06:45 PM
IIRC you have stated that Red Hat issues advisories on not only the operating system itself, but also on any services, applications, windowing system, etc. that may be included on their setup CD's. You have further stated that these services, applications, windowing systems, etc. are not technically part of the operating system and are optional. Did I get that right?

I can say the same of Microsoft. The Microsoft advisories included not just the operating system (and even at that Microsoft has two operating system branches which it supports), but also SQL Server, Exchange Server, MDAC, IIS, Internet Explorer (part of the OS, but when not used the user isn't vulnerable), Media Player (part of the OS, but when not used, the user isn't vulnerable), MSN/Windows Messenger, Microsoft Office, among other things.

So, yes, the Red Hat number include more than just the operating system, but then so do the Microsoft numbers. In fact, the Microsoft numbers include advisories for stand alone products purchased separately from the operating system (the server products and Microsoft Office).

#8 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 10/17/2002 8:36:11 PM
ArkiMage - I am collecting a list of bulletin numbers to insure I'm not counting redundant issues. Redhat is smart enough to use the same bulletin for multiple products, if the issue is the same.

So for instance 2002:207, 2002:194 and 2002:215 are shared between Redhat 8.0 and 7.2.
Now 2002:206 and 2002:205 are different although both are kernel security patches. 206 is actually shared between 8.0 and 7.3, whereas 205 is shared between 7.2 and 7.1. But they each address different issues in different kernel versions.

Like I said, the 107 comes from comparing security bulletins for all the products listed on their errata site. I'll go back through and double check for innacuracies, as I might have listed 2-3 bugs in there. But regardless it's over 100. I think I'm going to put up a webpage which details this further, and even break it down by product category. Maybe I'll work on that tonight a bit.

BTW, BobSmith is correct and I'd just like to point out that of the last 3 Microsoft bulletins only one was OS related. One of them was SQL server related, and the other was a flaw in Office. beeyp doesn't think these should count if it's Redhat, but does if it's Microsoft. Very confusing.

#9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 8:57:04 PM
To beeyp's credit, he probably assumed that you'd distort Red Hats numbers and shrink Microsoft's to make Microsoft look better. Since I haven't seen anyone dispute your numbers with different one's, though, that's an indication to me that your numbers are accurate.

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