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Linux: Popular, but can it do Windows? | |
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| Time: 15:19 EST/20:19 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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Linux, the computer operating system developed in the 1990s by a college student in Finland, is unlikely to dethrone Microsoft's Windows as the ubiquitous operating system on desktop PCs anytime soon. But Wharton faculty and a Linux supporter say that Linux will gradually become more attractive to consumers as more applications are developed for it. | ||
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| #1 By 665 (64.126.91.172) at 10/6/2002 3:37:59 PM |
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"...say that Linux will gradually become more attractive to consumers as more applications are developed for it."
Haven't they been saying this for years now? |
| #2 By 7746 (213.93.165.242) at 10/6/2002 4:35:09 PM |
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Linux Populair at the press; popular by most of us.. Not really.
Since 1998 the Press keeps saying that soon it the choice of the ordinairy. Any polls lately: between 0.4 and 1.7 procent use it as their desktop OS. This post was edited by xavalon on Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 16:35. |
| #3 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 10/6/2002 4:40:08 PM |
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If it happens, it happens... I don't see the point in continuing to write articles about what-ifs. Why not spend time on things that are happening, that are useful to the readership?
Phaedrus - It's going to take more than just a nice UI and software availability. Look at Macintosh, they've had Office and other major applications for years. They have a simple to use UI, easy to install software and so forth. But it's not just those one or two things. The fact is what makes Windows more appealing as a desktop OS than Mac or Linux or whatever is not one or two things, but all things. If I buy a printer today, doesn't matter which make, which model... it'll work with Windows. Cannot guarantee the same with Mac or Linux. If someone sends me a program on a CD, it'll work with Windows... again cannot guarantee this with alternatives. It's a massive chicken & egg thing. People won't write software for Mac/Linux until there are consumers... consumers won't migrate until there is software. I don't know what some people hope to accomplish here. This battle was won over 10 years ago, in a time when there was far more and far better competition than there is today. I gave up my Amiga in '91 because I realized the futility of this argument, and Commodore at that time had larger marketshare than Linux does today largely because the market overall was much much smaller. This post was edited by sodablue on Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 16:47. |
| #4 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 10/6/2002 5:34:18 PM |
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"IDC said, adding that spending on Linux COULD increase from $80 million in 2001 to $280 million in 2006, a compound annual growth rate of 28 percent."
IDC is known for inflated estimated, but even if true... $280M in 2006 is NOTHING. And "Murko", who plays the part of an expert... says "Dell and Gateway two or three years ago started offering Linux as alternative installs." while talking about DESKTOPS. He FAILS to mention that at least Dell discontinued this in DECEMBER 2001, due to LACK OF INTEREST. This post was edited by mooresa56 on Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 17:43. |
| #5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/6/2002 6:58:22 PM |
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Phaedrus - Oh, I wasn't disputing that. I was just saying in general there really is a lot more. There is no "one" thing which is the secret to success in this market.
Richterelan - I wouldn't worry about beeyp. He's a troll and just generally posts non-sensical crap to try to start flame wars. Ignore him at your leisure. |
| #6 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/6/2002 8:53:05 PM |
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Leo - What do you mean? IIS has been a better web server than Apache for quite some time now. IIS 6.0 is improved in a variety of ways, mostly from the standpoint of being an even better app server.
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| #7 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/6/2002 10:28:38 PM |
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beeyp - "pfft. and you say I troll. look whos talking. "
Ahh, at least my statements are supported by fact. "thats about it folks. i give up. no more comments from me. " Thank god. |
| #8 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/7/2002 1:00:55 AM |
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I didn't read this article, but judging from the blurb, there is a fatal flaw in the assumption that Linux will become more attractive to users.
This assumes Windows will stay pretty much in its current state and not improve. As it is, Linux continues to stay behind Windows, mostly implementing derivatives of Windows features, and attempting to gain usability by trying to emulate Windows UI constructs and methodologies. While this places Linux in a seemingly endless trailing position behind Windows, the constant debates over when and how their current technologies should change make them lag even further behind Windows. While Microsoft moves on to new UIs, greater usability, more friendly user experiences, and new technologies, Linux remains stuck in limbo as the community still argues over whether to throw out X, or where they should get their fonts. The most promising things I've seen in the Linux community regarding making Linux a fit desktop competitor have come from distros like Red Hat and Lycoris. Yet many in the community despise these distros because the companies' drive for UI consistency and ease of use destroy the eleet-ness of the platform. |
| #9 By 10896 (65.213.122.91) at 10/7/2002 8:09:10 AM |
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beeyp
What you stop spreading the Linux dream that Apache/Linux has 57% of the web server market. Read the link you provided and you will see it is talking about hostnames and not servers. Last year Linux had about 8% of server sales and IIS about 60%. This is probably a much more accurate figure of the server market. The actual number of web servers is actually very hard to determine for many reasons. Also show me any independent study that shows Apache/Linux having anywhere near the performance figures of IIS. Please provide a link and not just what you think. In the end, Apache/Linux is just the choice of amateurs and hobbyists, as not many major sites use that platform. |
| #10 By 10896 (65.213.122.91) at 10/7/2002 9:39:57 AM |
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No I am talking only about webservers, not file/print servers. I presume you do know what a hostname is and that count has nothing to do with number of servers.
As far as I know and in the last data I saw, PHP was in fourth place, behind ASP, Java, and ColdFusion. For your info, IBM runs AIX for webservers and Oracle runs Solaris. I guess Apache/Linux was not the choice for webservers for either of those companies. |
| #11 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 10/8/2002 8:18:50 PM |
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RichardJC - "If Apache was for amateurs, people like Oracle and IBM wouldn't be selling "enterprise" (lovely, meaningless word) tools for it."
I won't go as far as to say Apache is for amateurs, but I find ALOT of fault with your reasoning. The reason Oracle and IBM push Linux is not based on it being "better. Rather, its the ONLY reasonable alternative to putting more money into their competitors (Microsofts) coffers. THAT is the ONLY reason IBM and Oracle push Linux. THE ONLY REASON. I have alot of trouble believing that IIS is that much cheaper than Apache. I mean, Win2K Advanced Server is only around $2000. And you buy it, and thats the ony expense. For a business, $2000 is not significant... and IMO you get alot more with ASP than PHP. |
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