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  The Future of Windows
Time: 10:54 EST/15:54 GMT | News Source: ZDNet Australia | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Have you ever wondered what operating system you will be using in 2005? Australian tech writer Andrew Parsons investigates the future of Windows, code named Longhorn. As a developer, not only do you need to look at what platforms are out there right now, but what has been available in the past and what might be in the future. The stuff in the past is important because designing an application for say Windows XP without regard for previous versions of Windows dramatically reduces your target audience when with a (usually) minimal amount of effort you can support older versions as well.

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#1 By 3 (62.253.128.4) at 9/23/2002 11:37:40 AM
hmmm in 2005/6 I would prefer a new operating system and some advancements myself...I just don't want one every couple of years.

#2 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/23/2002 1:35:55 PM
1. false
2. false, the OSX UI while it looks pretty is pretty lousy
3. false, x86 processors are much faster... This isn't a confusion over Mhz, this is pure speed.
4. A community that does nothing but sit around whining about how evil everybody else is? Thank you, no.

As far as a developer migration to OS-X. Do they have anything similar to .NET. What about message queuing?(i.e. MQSeries) transaction management? easy database objects such as ADO?

If not why do you seriously think developers are going to move to it?

The sad thing about most Mac and Linux proponents is that they are still living in the 1980's.

#3 By 531 (208.241.173.124) at 9/23/2002 1:43:48 PM
#5:
1) uh huh... you just can't beat 25+ year old technology...
2) It may look pretty, but it's like operating a fish.
3) It's never a good idea to quote the company trying to make you believe their side of the story as a "source". It's usually a pretty safe bet that no company is going to write something that says their product is sub-standard.
4) I know people in the Mac community... you must be using a definition of "activated" that I'm not yet familiar with.
I've got to agree with SodaBlue here... there's no compelling reason for any developer to migrate to OSX development.

This post was edited by mikekol on Monday, September 23, 2002 at 13:44.

#4 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 1:50:07 PM
nom, just because nobody wants to wade through our nice almost 300 post thread, doesn't mean you should post your drivel here yet again. I gave your reason a hefty smack down last night as did n4cer. Don't you remember when you said "Well until I can find evidence, I'll admit that Windows XP offers me more than OS X could ever hope to."? Since there is no such evidence, I know you haevn't found any. Crawl back into your hole and pet your one button mouse.

#5 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 1:52:22 PM
"Activated" Oh yeah, the mac fans are so "active" they riot against apple in their forums to such a degree that the moderators take the board down. Yep, macosx.com took down its boards for a whole day in protest of all the mac fans who were COMPLAINING about how apple was treating them. That's some platform loyalty.

#6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:08:25 PM
you are so jealous of the power and wonder and glory that is windows xp, you can hardly breathe!

#7 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:10:40 PM
#11 get a clue, then come back and post

you obviously have read nothing (or understood nothing) about palladium. further you understand nothing about drm.

as for mass migrating away from windows, well, i won't hold my breath. i already know it won't happen.

#8 By 531 (208.241.173.124) at 9/23/2002 2:14:23 PM
#11.
If you're so worried about not being able to steal things, then go for it. DRM won't do anything except make it harder to steal IP from those who can have it legally. If you're supposed to have access to something, you will; if not, you won't. It's that simple.

#9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:23:20 PM
you were talking about palladium. why don't you explain palladium to us if you have a clue


then explain why anti-DRM != pro-theft

#10 By 531 (208.241.173.124) at 9/23/2002 2:31:33 PM
The Apple Way allowed you to download any file, software or otherwise onto the original iPod, so people were walking into CompUSA and pirating anything they wanted off of the display models. And people wonder why DRM and other safeguards appeal to software makers...

#11 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:34:22 PM
microsoft doesn't use palladium yet either

#12 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:35:30 PM
apple has been stealing all along, it began with the gui from xerox and most recently bsd for their os

#13 By 531 (208.241.173.124) at 9/23/2002 2:38:38 PM
Yup... not having the foresight to think that people might want to use the hole you left in your software/hardware to steal... that's a great example of creativity. When are we going to get a killfile on ActiveWin?

#14 By 531 (208.241.173.124) at 9/23/2002 2:45:27 PM
"Good artists copy, great artists steal." Isn't that what Steve Jobs has been quoting for years?

#15 By 531 (208.241.173.124) at 9/23/2002 2:45:30 PM
*duplicate*

This post was edited by mikekol on Monday, September 23, 2002 at 14:47.

#16 By 3653 (63.162.177.140) at 9/23/2002 3:39:53 PM
$24... you are truly out of touch. Apple stole that GUI from Xerox. And guess what else, Apple didn't invent wireless technology (airport) and they didn't invent the flat screen either.

Best I can figure, all they've ever truly INVENTED was how to sell colored plastic at a 600% markup.

#17 By 1868 (141.133.140.168) at 9/23/2002 4:09:32 PM
I am sad to see activewin plagued by all of these stupid idiots! Why have all of you decended on Activewin?????

There are users here, CPUGUY, SODABLUE who are intelligent, and who actually have valid reasons for there high count numbers because they post well thoughtout arguments and they know what there talking about.

I'm sorry but if I see another trolling Mac vs. PC argument then I am going to just forget reading you're posts.

Get some facts, come back here and debate your points with knowledge and information. Not this opinion CRAP.

#18 By 2960 (156.80.64.132) at 9/23/2002 4:58:38 PM
LOL!

I think I'll stay out of this one :)

TL

#19 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/23/2002 5:17:54 PM
Zeo01 - I suggest you create Zeomac and Zeolinux accounts so you can participate in the insanity. It's fun, and hilarious watching the zealots agree with your most inane points. :)

This post was edited by sodablue on Monday, September 23, 2002 at 17:18.

#20 By 1868 (141.133.144.220) at 9/23/2002 6:02:25 PM
Sodablue,
Thats hilarious that you've (possibly) gone and done that, but you should play nice and stop screwing with their minds, they can't help that they're the way they are.

Now on to creating those accounts!

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