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| Time: 10:47 EST/15:47 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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.NET clearly bears a strong resemblance to Java. It offers many of the same features, while adding interesting additions of its own (code metadata, versioned assemblies, etc). Microsoft, however, is better positioned to create a cross-market software unification framework than Sun Microsystems ever was (or is). This will result in a rapid expansion in .NET's popularity which eats into Java's market share as it grows to take over the development world. | ||
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| #1 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 10:50:12 AM |
| This is a day of records for me. First we have the longest thread in AW histry (right?). Next I think I agree with a ZDNet article. Wow. The only thing more unexpected would be for me to want to buy a Mac, but we know that will never happen. |
| #2 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 11:12:09 AM |
| Tsk, tsk beeyp. So early in the morning for you to be swearing already. I agree with things that are true, just so you know. The anti Microsoft FUD, I naturally disagree with since it is misrepresentation and lies. |
| #3 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 12:15:58 PM |
| Great to have a fellow brother in the cause of truth, baarod. Lol! I think I should just troll along with one liners. What do you think? |
| #4 By 20 (24.243.41.64) at 9/23/2002 12:38:39 PM |
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#6: It's amusing that in trying to insult or downplay #4, you demonstrated exactly what he was talking about
#8: Same goes for you. It's sad that you refer to the paid-for legal proxies for MS's competitors--- oops, I mean 9 states as "the good 9 remaining states". The states pushing for unprecedented, completely unfair and ridiculous punishments are anything but "good". Well, I guess they're "good" to MS' "competitors" (that is, they compete only in the courts because they are too worthless to compete in the marketplace with MS). And since you a shill for them, I can see how you'd consider the PFLPs (paid-for legal proxies) "good". |
| #5 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 12:58:26 PM |
| The first year of research in the anti trust case was fully funded by Oracle and Sun, or didn't you catch that in the transcripts? |
| #6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 12:59:27 PM |
| daz, good to have another voice of reason back on the board. |
| #7 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/23/2002 1:38:50 PM |
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baarod - Well said. The anti-MS contingent certainly has been getting more and more desperate as their predictions have come nowhere close to reality.
nomdlev - You venture wrong. |
| #8 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 9/23/2002 1:47:36 PM |
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#10 - Um... yes. The WHOLE CASE was a result of the government doing the work of Microsoft's competitors.
Where have you been for the past 5 years? |
| #9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 1:55:21 PM |
| Without competition the consumer suffers. That must be why apple maintains its hardware monopoly. it doesn't like to have competition, so it controls all aspects of its platform. it is very interesting that the very flaws which you despise in microsoft exits in your beloved apple as well. |
| #10 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 9/23/2002 1:59:33 PM |
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#8 - Please, define .NET.
See, the way I define it makes it nearly impossible for Microsoft to hold a monopoly over it... anymore than they can hold a monopoly over TCP, or HTTP. See, .NET is an application development framework. The framework (or, rather, large parts of it) is an ECMA standard. What that means is that Microsoft cannot unilaterally modify the framework as it pleases -- it most go through the ECMA panel and be approved first. This, by the way, is in contrast to Java, which is 100% controlled by Sun. In addition, one of the biggest benefits of .NET is its interoperability with other systems via the built in XML support and Web Services. If Microsoft was planning to use .NET to force everybody to Windows, why exactly would they base all of .NET on standards, make .NET itself a standard, and even develop .NET for OTHER platforms!? How does this fit in to your world view? How does this mesh? |
| #11 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 9/23/2002 2:01:53 PM |
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#18 - I agree... too bad they're not competing very well.
Apple's Market Share in the Basement: What's Next? Three recent surveys put Apple Computer's worldwide market share at well under 3 percent, leading analysts to once again ponder the fate of the Cupertino company. How bad is it? Giga Information Group says that Apple has hit a new low of just 2.6 percent market share, but RedSheriff says the figure is 2.2 percent, while OneStat.com says 1.43 percent. These figures have all come in the days since Apple launched its "Switcher" ad campaign, in which real users expound on the alleged simplicity and superiority of the Mac over Windows. But Apple has yet to deliver any figures on Windows switchers, beyond the number of users who visited the Web site, suggesting that the campaign hasn't done much to drive people to the Mac. "Think Different" might have been grammatically challenged, but at least it was cool. From: http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=26729 |
| #12 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:03:27 PM |
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nom, mac is a monopolized operating system on a monoplized hardware platform that the monopoly apple refuses to open up to competition. apple doesn't compete with dell for apple hardware. apple killed its clone program, becaues it didn't like competition. apple has now regained its hardware monopoly and lying apple trolls continue to attempt to distort that. This post was edited by BobSmith on Monday, September 23, 2002 at 14:04. |
| #13 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:05:11 PM |
| listening to you for any reasonable comments is like listening to larry ellison |
| #14 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:06:20 PM |
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unless microsoft murders the perpetrators of gnu
http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/index.html i think you are slightly mistaken #24 |
| #15 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 9/23/2002 2:06:56 PM |
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#22 - Ok, then provide me with evidence that the THREE INDEPENDANT ANALYSTS are lying, or that he is lying about what they said.
Dismissing an idea based soley on the source is yet another classic logical fallacy. In addition, you probably rarely read Paul, because if you did, you would know he is often critical about Microsoft... but unlike The Register, he is only critical when they deserve it. |
| #16 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 9/23/2002 2:09:24 PM |
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#24 - In good time it will only work for Windows.
Why do you say that? Do you have access to some internal document? What evidence do you have? See, I'm going off of the EVIDENCE. It's a strange concept... but you should give it a try some time. How will they restle control of .NET away from the ECMA? Guns? Bombs? What about (as BobSmith mentioned) Mono? What about DotGNU? What about the FreeBSD version of .NET? Care to ignore some more evidence? |
| #17 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 9/23/2002 2:09:53 PM |
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#27 - He owns a powerbook.
Get a grip man. |
| #18 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:13:44 PM |
| Lol! I know who you are now. You are neobond sent here from neowin (a pale and pathetic imitationg of activewin) to destroy us. |
| #19 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:19:34 PM |
| are we on our 13th straight hour of arguing and we now finally agree. hmm, maybe i can still get some sleep tonight. : - ) |
| #20 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:39:42 PM |
| since the interface is skinnable, who really cares what the default is |
| #21 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 2:40:27 PM |
| and since 2k came around before X, shouldn't that be OS X is as stable as Windows 2000/XP? |
| #22 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 3:25:32 PM |
| OS X only did what it already saw win2k doing. |
| #23 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/23/2002 4:08:43 PM |
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nom, being the UI junkee that I am, when you say that Aqua is a good UI, I just about regergitate.
There is a difference between what is pretty UI and what is a good UI. Sure, Aqua is very pretty, very asthetically pleasing (for the most part), however the usability of it is a joke. While the Windows(Explorer) UI isn't as smooth, fluidic, if you will, or just flat out as pretty, it does very well from a usability standpoint. Not to say that the Windows(Explorer) UI is ugly, it certainly isn't, especially since you can skin it to your liking, while still having the same standard places for controls and such. |
| #24 By 3653 (168.143.113.136) at 9/23/2002 4:14:11 PM |
| I'm happy to say that Mac traffic on my 3M+ daily hit site... has hit a new low over the past 30 days. My friends, we are not talking 2.6%. We are talking 0.18%. |
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