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Microsoft upbeat about Tablet PC in Asia | |
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| Time: 12:38 EST/17:38 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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Microsoft will be paying particular attention to how well the Tablet PC does in Asia. "Asia is a very important region for us," said Alexandra Loeb, Microsoft's corporate vice president of the Tablet PC Group. Because of the popularity of notebooks in this region--particularly sub-2kg ultraportables--she hopes that Asian buyers will be among the earliest and staunchest adopters of Microsoft-powered pen computers. | ||
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| #1 By 7826 (65.205.133.2) at 9/11/2002 2:54:59 PM |
| So does Microsoft have the technology to recognize hand writtings of those oriental languages? I don't think so. |
| #2 By 1868 (141.133.144.220) at 9/11/2002 4:08:06 PM |
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#1 Indeed they do.
I've read various white papers on the technology, and while it is not perfect and you have to choose the language and dilect, it works amazingly well. |
| #3 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/11/2002 6:18:53 PM |
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They also have speech technology that reconizes Asian and European languages as well.
Some of the languages the TabletPC will support include English, German, French, Japanese, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), and Korean. This post was edited by n4cer on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 18:19. |
| #4 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/11/2002 10:24:26 PM |
| It stands to reason that for Chinese at least (I'm not too familiar with other Asian languages) it would be easier to do recognition than it would of cursive in English. Since Chinese is based on strokes, it would be difficult to even anticipate the character being written since an educated Chinese person will always write the strokes in the correct order. (Only the dumb foriegners suffer with stroke order.) |
| #5 By 7826 (68.100.63.48) at 9/11/2002 10:27:57 PM |
| Recognizing written Chinese or Japanese is about 100 times more difficult than other western languages. There are big differences between technologically can-do and practially useful. I have saw the mouse drawing IME import and all I can say is nobody will use it as it is painfully slow. Ok for occasional use. |
| #6 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/11/2002 10:33:18 PM |
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MSR has an article that talks about the TPC's handwriting recognition in some detail. This was linked to from ActiveWin a few months ago, so some may have already seen it.
http://research.microsoft.com/features/tablet.asp From what I have seen in demos/videos, the TPC is improved over the old IME. You can just write the character within the app or from the entry pad for non-supported apps. This post was edited by n4cer on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 22:39. |
| #7 By 7826 (68.100.63.48) at 9/11/2002 10:34:06 PM |
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#5,
That's the what TabletPC is for - writing directly on the screen. You won't see a keyboard for it. #6, That is interesting. However, I fail to see how one can recognize a Chinese character by stroke orders alone. More often a single character contains more than dozen strokes and a slight difference in the stroke shape can mean totally different characters. |
| #8 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/11/2002 10:43:38 PM |
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The convertables will have keyboards. Most, if not all, of the slates will not, but they will allow you to connect an external keyboard.
IIRC, they don't use just the stroke order for recognition. It should be in the article that I linked to above. |
| #9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/11/2002 10:54:33 PM |
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I've only studied Mandarin for about a year, so maybe I'm mistaken but...
Chinese characters are cataloged by stroke order. If you use a dictionary, you look up your character by stroke order. This is like in English using alphabetical order. If you have block of screen space and someone begins to write, then the analyzer should be able to anticipate the character being writing because each of the strokes will always occur in the same order. It only has to compare the stroke order to a dictionary of symbols (by stroke order) to determine the symbol you intended to write. This would be the case regardless of how many strokes are involved in the character. I've never written handwriting recognition software, though, so I may be way off base. |
| #10 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/11/2002 10:56:24 PM |
| Interesting article n4cer. |
| #11 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/11/2002 11:04:48 PM |
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Thanks, Bob.
MSR has often has many cool projects going on. It also valedates that MS does innovate (even for industries in which they don't yet have commercial interests) no matter how much their detractors deny it (Though I think DX, Windows (all versions), OS/2, .NET, and much more is proof enough). Something else that was posted on AW a while ago was MSR's ConferenceXP technology. http://www.conferencexp.com http://www.conferencexp.com/community/videos/Distributed_Classroom.wmv (concept video) I wish my school used this tech. This post was edited by n4cer on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:18. |
| #12 By 7826 (65.205.133.2) at 9/12/2002 9:49:38 AM |
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#15,
Pinyin is the slowest way to import Chinese as Pinyin itself uses western alphabet to represent the pronociation of the Chinese characters. Given one set of Pinyin, you have to browse through dozens and dozens of characters. |
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