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  RealOne plays it all, for a price
Time: 04:06 EST/09:06 GMT | News Source: USA Today | Posted By: Alex Harris

''All you need is one.'' That's the catchy line RealNetworks is using to trumpet the arrival of its latest RealOne Player software, unveiled Tuesday by CEO Rob Glaser at a press conference in Manhattan. This new media player, available for a one-time $19.95 fee, is the first to handle playback of most every major digital media format: RealAudio and RealVideo, of course, plus MP3, Apple's QuickTime MPEG4 and Windows Media, from Real rival Microsoft.

The RealOne Player (including an upgraded free version) also lets consumers speedily burn CDs and play DVDs. Beyond the new software, Real launched a premium subscription-based Internet radio service ($5.95 per month) and a college sports package delivering live broadcasts of games via the Web ($6.95 per month). It also bolstered the offerings of its RealOne SuperPass ($9.95 per month) online news, sports and entertainment pay service.

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#1 By 9549 (68.44.192.174) at 8/25/2002 9:42:13 AM
Windows Media Players should be the player that way I wouldn`t have to see a **** load of ads all the time. If you want Real you should be able to buy a codec for it to work through WMP, same with quicktime. Then Real and Apple have to help MS continue to make the Player better by supporting new features and such. I would rater pay $50 dollars to buy the codec than have that Real garbage on my machine. Even if it is something that I want to view and it only comes on real format I wont watch it.

#2 By 116 (66.69.198.173) at 8/25/2002 6:15:33 PM
I think you should post that as a toplevel link Alex. Very informative.

#3 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/25/2002 10:14:19 PM
Why should Microsoft write a Linux client? Windows has 90% of the desktop market. Macs have about 4%. There is no other OS large enough to be worth Microsoft's time. Further, I don't see Red Hat, SuSe, Debian or any Linux people writing software for Windows. Why should Microsoft write software for their platform?

#4 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 8/25/2002 10:50:04 PM
FACT #1 - Real puts a bunch of shite on my pc when I install it.

FACT #2 - As long as FACT #1 holds true, I will NOT install Real Player.

A media player should be a commodity item, integrated into the OS just like the browser. Fellas, this is no different than if we all used different WINDOWS EXPLORER replacements. How nasty that would be.

#5 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/25/2002 11:38:58 PM
It's not sarcasm, it's business sense. Here's a case study

A given software product will cost $1 Billion to produce per platform.

The expected return is $90 Billion for one platform A, $5 Billion on platform B, and $1 Billion on platform C.

Now, if you were the CEO trying to decide what would make your company the most money, what would you do? If it were me, I'd first and foremost spend $1 Billion to make $90 Billion in return. Next, if I had the resources I'd spend $1 Billion to make $5 Billion. I might forgo development on this second platform if I concluded that writing a second version for the first platform would be more profitable. Finally, I'd likely not bother to spend a third $1 Billion to produce the product for the third platform, because I would expect to barely break even on my investment.

There are hundreds and thousands and likely millions of software applications written every year for a version of Windows. A much smaller percentage of these applications are also written for the Mac. A much, much smaller percentage are also written for Linux. The reason is quite clear. Software companies want to make money.

If Blizzard wrote WarCraft III for Linux, they would likely not even recoup the Linux development cost. If they felt they it would be profitable, they'd likely have written it for Linux. Hundreds of other software companies (including Microsoft) think along the same lines.

Linux is far, far from a major competitor in the desktop operating systems market. Just ask Judge Jackson if you don't believe me. Why should a software company spend its resources writing for such a minute portion of the market?

I was not being sarcastic in the least. I was making a wise, informed statement. If you think I'm mistaken in my statements, just look around at the applications for Windows. See how many of these also exist (in a current version) for Linux. Even if you subtract out the Microsoft products, you'll still see that many companies agree with me. It isn't worth the money to write desktop software applications for Linux.

#6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/25/2002 11:41:31 PM
Here's an on topic post. Having used both RealOne and Windows Media Player 8, I overwhelmingly choose to use Windows Media Player 8. Although Real is a company formed originally by former Microsoft employees (and ones that I respect), I have no respect for Real software.

#7 By 2459 (24.206.97.178) at 8/25/2002 11:53:36 PM
#17 -- One little problem with that - - How are they going to recoup the costs involved in porting to Linux (or "almost every conceivable platform")? There aren't many people (vs. Windows/Mac) using Linux to begin with, and the most vocal ones that do, love to boast about being MS free.

Microsoft already has enough trouble trying to make a profit in the Mac market. Why should they bother with every other platform simply because there is another platform. Unlike open source, where the majority of the software is developed for research, by universities, or by people willing to devote their spare time to not-for-profit coding, Microsoft (and any other business that wants to stay in business) codes for different platforms only when there is a good possibility of getting a return on their investment at some point. That way, they can not only pay their developers for time spent on the project, but hopefully make a profit so they can further expand.

With the current attitudes towards MS from users of other platforms, there is not much point in porting their applications other than to prove it could be done (even 75% of users that only make up .3% of the market is meniscule and not worth the trouble). Even companies generally liked by alternative platform users, like id Software, say that ports of their software to anything other than Windows and Mac is largely an act of charity. If they can't get a good ROI, how is the most reveiled company in OSS land expected to do any better. Many alternative OS users pirate Windows and MS apps (at least that's what I gather from many admissions in forums [those are only the ones that will admit in public to using MS software]), why would they suddenly buy the software just because it's native to their platform? And, what incentive would there be to use Windows (for those that don't see it as a better OS)? The whole thing would be equivalent to MS still making NT ports for MIPS simply because there were a couple of people that would buy it. No one places this burden upon any other company than MS.

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