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Time:
16:41 EST/21:41 GMT | News Source:
The Register |
Posted By: Alex Harris |
A bill to protect grassroots Internet radio has been offered before Congress.
The Internet Radio Fairness Act would exempt webcasters with less than $6 million in annual revenues from the additional RIAA royalty and from future royalty requirements.
The webcasters already pay performance fees to ASCAP, the BMI and the European equivalent, but the RIAA has sought to impose an additional burden backdated to 1998, - not imposed on US radio stations and onerous reporting requirements - and a sympathetic Library of Congress ruling in June obliged many smaller Netcasters close down.
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#1 By
135 (208.50.201.48)
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7/29/2002 8:54:21 PM
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Realist - On the first article... I do not see how this would impact me if I have a legally purchased CD on my PC.
I do not see how the second article effects me because I do not use P2P software to illegaly trade files.
I'm more interested in being outraged about things which impact law abiding citizens, like Sony's proposed "Make all HDTV monitors obsolete" standards, and CD's which do not abide by the standards, etc.
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#2 By
1896 (216.78.253.158)
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7/29/2002 10:16:06 PM
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#1 The saddest aspect of this story is that nobody seems to realize that the need to obtain the "permit" of the Attorney General to sue the RIAA is clearly uncostitutional: one of the principle of our democracy is that if someone feels damaged by whoever else actions has the right to have his arguments heard and evaluate in a Court of Justice. Come on, people have the right to sue Mc Donalds because they are obeses and we are not supposed to be able to sue someone who step into our private property because they decided to have "enough reasonable doubts" we are doing something illegal? Here the same entity serves as a the investigator, the judge and the executioner! A great requiem for the idea of executive, legislative and judiciary powers balancing one another.
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#3 By
135 (208.50.201.48)
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7/30/2002 8:57:46 AM
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Realist - "Its possible that a year from now worst case, that the only cdplayers out there have DRM built in and only play authenticated CD's."
Yes, it's possible. It's also possible that the moon is made out of green cheese, but that isn't very probable is it? If the recording industry went this route they would lose all sales because the technology is too entrenched. Just like how DAT failed, musicdiscs failed, DivX failed, etc. etc. etc.
Occam's Razor... Live it, Love it, Learn it and stop bothering us with your nonsense Chicken Little.
As for P2P... the technology serves no purpose other than to share copyright-infringed material. So your possible isn't very probable, once again.
The HDTV and non-standard audio discs are IMMEDIATE and REAL* threats. These aren't things that MIGHT happen worse case, these are things that ARE happening today.
Your support and justification of piracy is what is hurting those of us who are simply concerned with fair-use. It's hard for US to be heard when THEY* simply have to point at YOU as justification for their reactions.
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#4 By
1896 (216.78.253.158)
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7/30/2002 9:27:35 AM
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My problem here is what should be considered legal and illegal: should it be legal to swap songs over internet? NO!!! Should it be legal for someone who bought ten CDs to make a compilation with songs copied from the CDs he, or she bought? Yes. Should I be able to play the music I bought in any kind of media I want? Yes. Would I buy music online? Yes if the price is right and I would be able to burn what I buy on a CD or other media of my choice. Finally I strongly believe that the price of a CD is too high, this doesn't absolutely justify stealing it!!! It just cripple sales because people like me who don't steal don' t buy as much as they would like to. Don't get me wrong, record industries can set prices as high as they want, I have no problem with that, I am just stating that doing so will hurt sales and therefore profits.
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#5 By
4209 (163.192.21.2)
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7/30/2002 9:45:08 AM
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Quick question, what is the HDTV Scam???
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#6 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
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7/30/2002 12:23:58 PM
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Fritzly - Absolutely! The real issues are fair-use rights, and balancing consumer desires with profits. I don't want any DRM if it means it's going to cripple my ability to utilize the product as I see fit.
For an example. I bought 100 blank CD-Rs for $30 and am making copies of my CD collection to keep with me in the car. Why? Because when you figure the replacement cost of $14/each for 100 CDs, that's a lot of money and I don't want to risk my music collection to either theft or heat. But I also want to have a wide variety of music with me when I travel. I think that's an entirely legitimate use of the CD I purchased.
As for the price of CDs... I don't think they are too high, as I receive a lot of enjoyment out of them. Although I tend to buy mine at Best Buy where they are $12-15... I would be reluctant to pay $16-18 like I see them at some places.
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#7 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
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7/30/2002 12:36:06 PM
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mctwin2kman - The content producers have created a new standard for connecting to HDTV displays called HDCP, it uses a DVI connector and uses DRM of some sort.
What it means is that people who currently own HDTV sets and HDTV equipment will be obsoleted. They will not be able to take advantage of the newer products, and rumor has it the existing HDTV tuners will only display the lower resolutions, a downgrade to existing sets.
The key thing here is that they won't allow a converter box to convert between DVI and the existing component video inputs because they are analog and that would allow someone to potentionally record off them.
This is something that is happening now and has very strong momentum. It wouldn't be an issue if the companies were retrofitting existing sets, or if they offered a convertor box. This isn't like encorporating DRM into software which you download and upgrade for free... these are $2000-8000 television sets that early adopters of HDTV have purchased and are now being screwed for their early enthusiasm.
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#8 By
1896 (65.80.240.177)
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7/30/2002 4:56:33 PM
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#11 After I pay the taxes I owe I have the right to spend my money the way I want and not to be screwed up by greedy companies. Buying a 15"CRT monitor or a 60" plasma screen is uninfluential; we are all entitled to see our rights protected richer and poorer. Btw if a company release CDs that cannot be played on my PC they better put a big warning labels on them because if they don't I would take them to Court the same day. If there is a warning and nobody buy the product the producers will give up quickly, remember DIVX or whatever was called the Circuit City bright idea to sell "expiring" movies.
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#9 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
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7/30/2002 6:49:33 PM
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Realist - Look, P2P is not a constitutional right. The only purpose of the services is to unlawfully trade movies and music. I could care less about them, and if launching DoS attacks is the only way to be rid of them, then I say more power to the industry for getting a law passed allowing that.
As far as the CD example goes, it actually works counter to your Chicken Little claims. While the CD violates the standard, it still will work on home and car players, which is the most important feature. Still most people expect CDs to work in their home computers, and if these don't they will, and should, be returned to the store. I think this concept will ultimately fade into oblivion.
Your DRM sky-is-falling story precludes the CDs from working on any currently existing CD player, and it is that leap of logic which will never come to being. It's going to be hard enough selling partially crippled CDs, it will be impossible to sell completely crippled CDs.
Now I go onto my HDTV example. I'm sorry that you are jealous of other people's wealth, but that's irrelevant to the issue. This is a more complex issue that address two sides of the argument. On the one hand DRM is being forced. This is disappointing mainly because it requires purchase of new expensive hardware. If the hardware purchase was not the case, the DRM would have zero to no impact. I have no real desire to copy movies, I only want to play them.
I think ultimately the HDCP technology is in jeopardy because it will have slow initial adoption rates. Not at all like the current DVD technology. It was a mistake to abandon backwards compatibility with early adopters.
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#10 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
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7/30/2002 6:51:31 PM
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Realist - "I guess I am supposed to feel bad for the luxury tax on yachts as well. "
One last point...
Listening to music or watching movies is a luxury. It's not a necessity. So your childish attitude is just as applicable there as anywhere else. If you can't listen to Britney Spears, you aren't going to die tomorrow... trust me on that one, in fact it may save your life to not listen.
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