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| Time: 15:27 EST/20:27 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Andre Da Costa | ||
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Vista has turned into the desktop operating system no one wants, and even Microsoft is beginning to get it. Today, I think of Vista as the zombie operating system. It stumbles around, and from a distance you might think it's alive, but close up it's the walking dead. The first sign that Vista was in real trouble was when major vendors started to offer XP again on new machines. In February, Microsoft insisted it had already sold more than 20 million copies of Windows Vista. Oh yeah, like there were actually 20 million copies of Vista already out there and running. Pull the other leg, it's got bells on. | ||
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| #51 By 12071 (124.171.8.155) at 9/30/2007 7:59:10 PM |
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#45 "Nice photoshop."
How much do you want to bet on it? I'll take the bet with every single asset you have - although I doubt you have much to your name. Let me know when you want to do the transaction! #46 "You call my comments moronic" Did I? Can you point out where I called your comments moronic please? The voices in your head don't count! "I will not sit here and let you spew propaganda without getting a dose of rebuking and proper straightening out on the facts." I'm glad you won't, however it's been me so far with the hard facts and you with the propaganda that Vista cannot possibly run slow as per the author's comments and those of hundreds?/thousands? around the world. And what did I get from you and the rest of the pro-Microsoft zealots? The usual - name calling, which is all you can come up with when you have nothing tangible to say I guess. So you can keep telling yourself that you're fighting the good fight for Microsoft. #47 "I know where you got the first set of numbers, but how did you compile the timings? " Correct - via TweakVista, which as I mentioned just provides a summarized view of those numbers. It also measures the differences between driver/app/service x start up time now vs. previously and will show you what took longer to start up and potentially why. "Overall Index - 5.5 (always equals the lowest number above, which is stupid IMHO)." Well your system is as slow as it's slowest component so it's not the worst way of doing it but an average would give you a slightly higher number :) In any case it's not the number that concerns me all that much, it's that it doesn't appear to have any real world meaning - at least not here. |
| #52 By 27999 (203.128.223.73) at 10/1/2007 6:40:32 AM |
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I've been using Vista (32) since June. Mind you, I have a high-powered ASUS laptop with a great video card, dual core, lots of Ram etc. I have had less problems with Vista than XP, which is very stable. The only problems I have is trying to run some apps that haven't been upgraded to versions that run under Vista.
Yes, there are annoyances like the continual confirmation to run prgs. But I can live with that and there are good security-based reasons for that. It would be nice if MS provided a check box that says "Remember this for this user" . But hey, I can live with these annoyances because Vista has some great features. I had a cable modem that quit working when it was on for more than 5 min....I knew it had a problem, and Vista correctly diagnosed the problem for me. The network diagnostics are terrifice. Vista has great recovery of crashed prgs as well. I could mention at least another 10 or 15 excellent points here but then, people who have vista working already know all the good points. I think all the people who are complaining should go out and buy the proper hardware to run it on, and try it again. For me, it is way better than XP, which I really liked. I was thinking of going back to XP, but Vista hasn't given me any reason yet to do that. Given the right platform to run on, Vista works great, is very stable, and is much more secure than XP. Unless Vista suddenly starts going crazy for some reason, I'm sticking with Vista. One minor complaint: MS, where the hell are all those extras that you promised Ultimate users? |
| #53 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at 10/1/2007 10:51:22 AM |
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Busy weekend for "Night of the Living Vista" thread. After reading through all the posts (anything with 50 plus responses must have some nuggets in it), I had to jump in too.
awandre: And she is an idiot if she can't tell the difference between My Documents and Documents. Even my mother knows that and she doesn't use or own a computer. If I were her, I would go back to pen and paper and a filing cabinet, there is just no hope for her at all. Let her be her own operating system. Sure, blame it on the user. I prefer to take the approach of asking myself: How could this be designed so the user's issue is completely avoided? lketchum: ..the crosses at screw heads have to all be the same - all facing exactly the same way.. lol... I knew there were more of us out there. Light switch and electrical outlet faceplate screws get this same treatment as well. It's the involuntary attention to small details that distinguishes the craftsman from the apprentice. Not one fault is tolerated and good enough is never good enough. This is the way I write software. If more people in our industry approached their work with this level of dedication and pride, then I think a lot of these posts would not be necessary--stuff would just work. MysticSentinel: Not even a single bit of proof, other than his say so. It is for this reason that I put the likes of awandre, NotParker, moorsea56, ch, and a few others into the category of wasted space. I think you have me confused with someone else. If not, then you and lketchum see me in completely different light. Fritzly: Overall I keep believing that MS should make two different OSes: One for their new love: big corporations with very conservative GUI etc. One for enthusiastic people that should be really futuristic, with no more windows, pie menus or whatever and charge a Premium for it exactly as Alienware and NVidia do with their respective top of the line hardware. With a solution like this I would be happy not once but twice: as a user and as a shareholder. We can only hope and dream! (Only two Windows versions would, however, disappoint NotParker who expects half-a-dozen with a feature matrix.) TechLarry: IMHO, I believe this break-even point has only been reached 3 times... I agree with your wise assessment about productivity losses and gains (especially for the Office suites). Any smart company is going to measure software productivity--whether it is for OS, task-based application, or specialized/custom application. You have to temper that with maintenance expenses, security, and compliance issues. In the end, you will have a whole picture that, when viewed objectively, will provide "lessons learned" and justify future decisions. TechLarry: Something told me to copy all that the clipboard before posting. SOP for me on AW forums. (Hint, hint lketchum...) senor_al: I think all the people who are complaining should go out and buy the proper hardware to run it on, and try it again. This seems to be the consensus here at AW. What laptop are you using? Edited to corect gramer and speling... :-) This post was edited by ch on Monday, October 01, 2007 at 12:00. |
| #54 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 10/1/2007 11:28:00 AM |
| ch: I completely apologize!! You should definitely not have been on that list. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I must have been thinking of someone else, and confused that person with you temporarily. Mea culpa! |
| #55 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at 10/1/2007 4:04:07 PM |
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Andre,
Release it to 20,000. The picture changes dramatically :) TL |
| #56 By 87266 (75.166.51.130) at 10/1/2007 9:50:55 PM |
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I'm not a developer, I'm an advanced user of a tablet PC. I don't get why people don't like Vista either. I have two laptops sitting on my desk right now - I'd rather use the Vista machine, but the XP machine has the bigger screen. I think I'll be upgrading that one to Vista in the not-so-distant future.
I like the interface. I like that it manages limited RAM fairly well (I upgraded the XP to 1GB just to get the hard drive to stop churning, Vista uses 1GB quite efficiently - even if it takes a while to get there). I like the power management features. I like wireless networking with it. I don't like how Vista keeps asking me if I'm sure. And I still haven't figured out how to get it to stop telling me that it hates popups when I actually like some popups. And, yes, I've blocked some programs from starting, but I don't need a special application to tell me about it every five minutes. My biggest problem has been with specific applications (all Microsoft). They crash while printing to other file formats, but I'm hoping for a fix for those things in the near future. I really quite like Vista. I've never loved a Microsoft product, so I think I can say I'm satisfied. |
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