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  Mac versus Windows vulnerability stats for 2007
Time: 09:54 EST/14:54 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Brian Kvalheim

The year 2007 has been an interesting year that brought us improved security with Windows Vista and Mac OS X Leopard (10.5). But to get some perspective of how many publicly known holes found in these two operating systems, I’ve compiled all the security flaws in Mac OS X and Windows XP and Vista and placed them side by side. This is significant because it shows a trend that can give us a good estimate for how many flaws we can expect to find in the coming months. The more monthly flaws there are in the historical trend, the more likely it is that someone will find a hole to exploit in the future. For example back in April of this year, hackers took over a fully patched Macbook and won $10,000 plus the Macbook they hacked. I used vulnerability statistics from an impartial third party vendor Secunia and I broke them down by Windows XP flaws, Vista flaws, and Mac OS X flaws. Since Secunia doesn’t offer individual numbers for Mac OS X 10.5 and 10.4, I merged the XP and Vista vulnerabilities so that we can compare Vista + XP flaws to Mac OS X. In case you’re wondering how 19 plus 12 could equal 23, this is because there are many overlapping flaws that is shared between XP and Vista so those don’t get counted twice just as I don’t count something that affects Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 twice.

So this shows that Apple had more than 5 times the number of flaws per month than Windows XP and Vista in 2007, and most of these flaws are serious. Clearly this goes against conventional wisdom because the numbers show just the opposite and it isn’t even close.

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#26 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 12/19/2007 11:02:58 AM
#23: I really think that's wishful thinking. At some point, does it matter if your system is "more secure" based on number of historical exploits, if it still has gaping holes in it? Regardless of whether you're running Windows or OS X, you should be *very* concerned about your system's security configuration if you're going into an internet cafe, for instance--it only takes one hole. And not having an exploit in the wild today doesn't mean not having an exploit tomorrow.

The sheer number of holes found in OS X--when the vast majority of the research and money is going into finding Windows holes--has to tell a person that not only have they been at risk in the past, it is a very good prediction that they are still at risk to yet-undisclosed exploits. (Just as with any OS, of course.)

#27 By 2960 (72.196.195.185) at 12/19/2007 11:19:48 AM
Don't know how else to put it. IT'S NOT MY FLIPPIN' CALL!

And yes, I know about the options in Access Connections. It doesn't work for us for technical reasons. Besides, that's only one example of many.

And I agree that AC is a huge steaming pile of ...... But, it's what we have to use.

I just have to work within the decisions made by others. I'm not disagreeing with the concept, I just can't change it!

TL

This post was edited by TechLarry on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 11:22.

#28 By 2960 (72.196.195.185) at 12/19/2007 11:20:39 AM
Waiter - Check Please... :)

TL

This post was edited by TechLarry on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 11:23.

#29 By 37 (76.210.78.134) at 12/19/2007 11:23:47 AM
The problem here is, when people start to hear that the real world experience differs from their experience or personal beliefs, they change the subject or leave. Sad.

#30 By 3746 (72.12.161.38) at 12/19/2007 3:12:55 PM
#19

The starwood chain does not have the problems you describe. Sure you get the occasional spyware infection or toolbar installation but nothing that is epidemic. Like I said the hotel that I work for has only have one virus infection in the 4 years I have worked there. Even though some of the hotels are not corporately owned all IT and security is controlled from the top down. I have talked to multiple IT people at the corporate level and on site at other properties an none have major issues. If they can run a tight ship then anyone can.

#31 By 37 (66.188.104.250) at 12/19/2007 4:05:09 PM
#30. Well that is good news for that chain. However, that isn't the case for most. I hope people don't think that just because they don't see or experience issues with Windows, that they don't exist (even epidemically). There are many others that do. I have talked to countless IT people in my years, many who have moved from one corporation of hotels to another, and all say the same thing. The least amount of issues they find are the POS workstations, where they eliminate keyboards, have touch screen/thumbprint only, and no browser available. Those are their most secure stations.

I still laugh to this day. I was looking at an online support manual from a hotel chain once. They were talking about the approved 3rd party software application list for workstations for hotels. The list is about 30 apps short. In one of the screenshots where they were showing the property management screen screenshot, there was an AOL AIM messenger icon in the systray. On the same page, it stated IM messengers are prohibited. Next time I was on the phone with IT, I pointed that out, and they laughed.

#32 By 3746 (72.12.161.38) at 12/19/2007 7:55:05 PM
#31

I am not saying that problems don't exist - I work in IT and I see the problems you are describing every day. What I am saying is just because some/most have problems doesn't mean it has to be that way. It is easy to be an IT admin and say MS is crap and pass the buck. It may be the case but ultimately it is your responsibility to ensure that the crap keeps running. A properly managed infrastructure will have limited exposure to these issues. I have seen it work right in many organizations just as I have seen poorly managed organizations have a huge number of problems.

#33 By 92702 (217.45.245.1) at 12/20/2007 3:22:47 AM
All my users are locked down, on the sites that were running Sophos we have never had any malware issues.

On 2 sites with Synamntec we did have a handful of malweare issues over 2 years.

#34 By 2960 (72.196.195.185) at 12/20/2007 9:11:25 AM
#29,

I would think that you of all people would know that it's extremely rare to see malware on a Mac, regardless of how many bugs it has.

And I haven't gone anywhere. You know me better than that. I'm like a cockroach and you can't get rid of me that easy :)

TL

#35 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 12/20/2007 9:32:12 AM
#34: You have to say it like Tony Montana...

"cockaroach"

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