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| Time: 09:22 EST/14:22 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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So there I was trying my best to get a midlevel Microsoft manager to take the bait. "Does Microsoft now feel confident it's found a way to slow the rise of Firefox--maybe even win back some lost customers?" Earlier in the day, Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates was onstage at the RSA Conference in San Francisco to unveil a beta of an updated version of Internet Explorer, a Web browser that's been begging for new security features--let alone a facelift--for ages. Microsoft promoted the introduction as a big deal. Naturally, I thought my interlocutor would jump at the opportunity. C'mon, I thought, run some jive about how IE is all ready to rout those pests from the Mozilla Foundation once and for all. Instead I was left high and dry. All I got was marketing mumbo-jumbo about how the company strives to do good by its customers and that's the ultimate payoff--and so on and so forth. | ||
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| #26 By 7797 (68.142.9.161) at 2/19/2005 7:49:43 PM |
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"They come from Netscape pre-2000. Many of them have a last modified date of 1998 or 1999. Netscape 4.7 came out in September 1999. So yes. They come from Netscape 4 or earlier."
I just searched the source for any files starting with ns with a modified date between 01/01/1999 and 01/01/2000 and found exactly 22 files. At least try to be accurate when you make claims and be careful about who you call unbright. And as I've asked you before, should Mozilla have re-written EVERYTHIGN just for the sake of rewriting even the stuff that was usable? Why reinvent the wheel? |
| #27 By 7797 (68.142.9.161) at 2/19/2005 8:06:56 PM |
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LinuxIsTheft claimed that files containing the string "Copyright (C) 1998-1999 Netscape Communications Corporation" are files from Netscape4. Searching the source shows that this is not correct because many files contain a seemingly standardized header with the string "Portions created by Netscape are Copyright (C) 1998-1999 Netscape Communications Corporation." LinuxIsTheft used the above disproved argument as the basis for his claim that searching for "1999" in the Firefox source is a way to accurately find that 25% of the code comes from Netscape4. Because many files that have been written post 1999 contain the above noted string searching for 1999 does not accurately reflect which files come from Netscape4. LinuxIsTheft claimed that files starting with ns are from Netscape4 and that MANY of them have a modified date of 1998 or 1999. I have disproved this, there are only 22 such files out of a total of 36100 source files. I've done another search for any file modified between 01/01/1980 to 01/01/2000 and the total number is 1689 files. This is less than 5% of the 36100 source files and that number contains many readme files, changelog files, images, .cvsignore files, bug descriptions, etc. Not couting .cvsignore files, *.gif files, readme files, changelog files, *.cur files, bug description files, *.doc files leaves us with 822 files representing less than 2.3% of the total files in the source. Using this method one would be able to say that less than 2.5% of the source code could potentially come from Netscape4. However even this method is not correct as we don't know how many files that were modified past 2000 contain fragments of netscape4 code. LinuxIsThef you said counting the number of files that contain the string "1999" in the source code reveals accurately how much code comes from Netscape4. I believe people are laughing at you for making that claim. I eagerly await to disprove more of your claims! This post was edited by tgnb on Sunday, February 20, 2005 at 09:21. |
| #28 By 7797 (68.142.9.161) at 2/19/2005 8:10:27 PM |
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"lol. now these fanboys are defending decade old code. Funny as hell."
Is there any decade old code in IE6? Are you defending IE6? Too bad I dont have the source to answer this myself. |
| #29 By 3 (62.253.128.15) at 2/20/2005 4:32:17 PM |
| #43 - Please don't try to add common sense to this thread! |
| #30 By 7797 (68.142.9.161) at 2/20/2005 5:59:33 PM |
| Why do people always accuse others of exactly the thing they are doing themselves? |
| #31 By 3653 (68.54.224.219) at 2/20/2005 11:51:18 PM |
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tgnb - "Is there any decade old code in IE6?"
Your thinly veiled attempt to deflect the issue will not work. We are talking about old netscape code. Nice try though. Also, nice job putting your tail between your legs and running with post #46. |
| #32 By 3653 (68.54.224.219) at 2/21/2005 7:31:52 PM |
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halcyon - "It's a common example in the OSS development community. Apple took Konqueror's rendering engine KHTML and used it for Safari, yet it is not called Konqueror because it is a different project managed by different people with different goals"
Pot-A-toe Pot-ah-tah You lose. |
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