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  IE Usage Falls Again, Firefox Gains
Time: 11:15 EST/16:15 GMT | News Source: BetaNews | Posted By: Chris Hedlund

Use of Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser has fallen for the seventh straight month, and the decline is beginning to accelerate, according to new data from research firm WebSideStory. Usage of IE stood at 90.3 percent, a one month decrease of 1.5 percent. Meanwhile, Firefox usage rose nearly a full percentage point to 5 percent of the market. WebSideStory also showed gains in Apple's Safari browser and Opera Software's flagship browser. The original Mozilla browser showed some weakness, falling slightly since December. Other browser usage surveys, however, show Internet Explorer to have already fallen below 90 percent. Rival OneStat.com in November said IE's share stood at 88.9 percent. OneStat.com at that time pegged Firefox usage at 4.58 percent.

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#26 By 3339 (64.160.58.137) at 1/21/2005 8:38:02 PM
Parkker, you are stuck in ParkkerWorld again... PCs shipped. Not PCs with Windows shipped. Hence, the 12 million figure. Macs and Linux machines are included in the 177 million number.

No, any sane person would guess there are much fewer than 12 million new users per year.

From August 2004: "A little more than a 152 million PCs will leave factories this year, and that tally is expected to grow over time. With about half of these going to new users, IDC believes that the PC user population will grow to 1.2 billion by the end of 2009, a 79 percent increase over six years." IDC and Gartner both believe it will be about 6 years for the PC industry to grow by 350 million users. Which equates to about 4.8 million per year... but they also expect the most growth to occur in 2008-2010 in China so the number currently is probably lower than 4.8 million.

This post was edited by sodajerk on Friday, January 21, 2005 at 20:44.

#27 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 1/21/2005 11:36:08 PM
#36 - Yup. We have 7 in our home of different types and most people we know have at least 3 or four. Many, especially those with hifgh school and college age children have at least one for each child and often times a home worstation and a laptop.

Also, as we recover older PC's from locations, they are rebuilt and sent back into the field performing less strenuous tasks, or as second less used PC's. Of hundreds we have seen this year alone, only 6 have been a partial loss and were gutted for parts.

It is rare to see a PC that is less than 5 years old abandoned - we just have not seen it, and
most are upgraded with more RAM and a new copy of Windows XP Pro.

#28 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 1/22/2005 8:09:43 PM
if i were ms gentlemen i would be plenty worried about firefox.

i believe most business software will run on remote computers when very fast data lines carry all information into and out of an office (phone/computer/television/etc).

the local machine will run a few programs that will work like an appliance and will itself be remotely administrated.

the os will make no difference and the basic software will be trivial and inexpensive.

why not firefox on top of any platform. remember faster, cheaper, better.

#29 By 8062 (68.107.20.152) at 1/22/2005 10:29:25 PM
Firefox...no should be named FireFarce. This POS browser is made only for MS (that's m$) haters and open sores (bozoes) lovers as it offers nothing more than more irritation that the latest version of IE.
Want a real life...forget FireFarce I mean FireFox.

#30 By 13030 (198.22.121.120) at 1/24/2005 10:48:58 AM
#17: it's impossible that Firefox has even remotely close to 5% of the web browsing share worldwide. Internet Explorer not only had a supposed 90%+ marketshare for the past whatever number of years, but they continue to sell about 12 million pc's per month with IE on them. If there have been 19 million downloads of FF...

In his argument, AWBrian just assumes that every new PC sold is connected to the internet. Internet usage is 68.3% of North American population and only 12.7% globally. I suspect that a significant portion of computers sold each month are not browsing the web. 12 million PCs with IE means is vague since all Windows versions now are bundled with IE including server editions which may never need to have a browser invoked on them. Many companies restrict web access, so it is meaningless to make calculations based on a highly variable number.

(Since my wilda55 guess is as good as anyone's: I would place the number of new PCs browsing the web wordwide at about 30%.)

#31 By 3339 (64.160.58.137) at 1/24/2005 1:18:27 PM
"That's unpossible."

Brian you are starting to get more pathetic than Parkker.

New computers are not new users, Brian. Even if 90% of those computers are Windows machines, you cannot assume they are using IE or that they aren't replacement machines.

You canb't use number of internet users because half of the world primarily surfs through internet cafes. You can't take browser usage numbers and subtract them from a number larger than the estimated number of personal computers in use today.

Nor can you claim that the only possible source of FF is from the site, and therefore, it has to be 20 million or less.

You have no logic to your argument. You are simply stringing together several, completely unrelated bits of info not related to this story.

Yes, Websidestory and onstat.com do not scan the whole internet, yet they do not claim to. What they do say is: this is our sample pool, these are the trends we see.

What is impossible is your insisting on this absurd position with a straight face.

"The doctor said I wouldn't have so many nosebleeds if I kept my finger out of there."




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