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  Why I dumped Internet Explorer
Time: 02:14 EST/07:14 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Robert Stein

At the office, my cubicle colleague--a Firefox aficionado of long standing--smugly greeted the news by asking me what took so long. But rest assured this is no small concession. The short answer is I don't have a lot of time or patience to fiddle around getting my different applications to play nice. So when forced to decide between competing software alternatives, yours truly has nearly always gone with the Microsoft offering.

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#26 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 10/8/2004 10:48:36 AM
"Browsers will become the application launchpads of the future, and in that respect, it largely doesn't matter anymore, especially since they are both free. "

IE is not free. To get IE 7 I have to purchase Longhorn when it comes out in 2007.

#27 By 135 (69.7.134.5) at 10/8/2004 11:19:29 AM
tgnb - Why does everything have to be free?


#28 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 10/8/2004 1:48:56 PM
"Why does everything have to be free?"

I dont know. You tell me. I never said everything has to be free.

#29 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 10/8/2004 2:32:47 PM
#27,

IE is not free.

It is either $99, $199 or $299 depending on which version of Windows XP you buy.

At least if you want updates such as provided in XP SP2.

TL

#30 By 21203 (4.5.32.137) at 10/8/2004 6:16:21 PM
IE is not free. To get IE 7 I have to purchase Longhorn when it comes out in 2007.
...
It is either $99, $199 or $299 depending on which version of Windows XP you buy.


All Windows (client OS) products are not "free". But as long as you have the OS, the browser is free. Cmon, that was very much a stupid retort, you guys would say anything to make Microsoft sound bad. I could say that I need to buy the $50 linux package off the shelf, or the computer, or the internet connection, or the ISP to download, or the phone company to get Linux... but how about this: Lets just assume (as was my original intent) that one would have an OS already purchased or acquired. The browser of their choice will then be free: IE or Firefox. Mmmkay?

Don't make this another Linux vs Windows arguement again, it's stupid. The browser is free. Even if you don't have an OS you can still download it.

This post was edited by mram on Friday, October 08, 2004 at 18:23.

#31 By 7797 (68.142.9.161) at 10/9/2004 1:14:26 AM
How do i get IE 7 without Longhorn? I just bought XP and dont want to upgrade to Longhorn. I can't get the brower for free.

#32 By 21203 (4.5.32.137) at 10/9/2004 1:51:16 AM
How about you stick with the present? That might be hard enough! :P

#33 By 135 (69.7.134.5) at 10/9/2004 6:08:20 AM
tgnb - "I dont know. You tell me. I never said everything has to be free. "

You said IE wasn't free, implying that it should be.

So why should everything be free?

#34 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 10/9/2004 9:30:00 AM
It has been interesting to see how this thread has evolved. From where we are, the issue isn't about an interim release of IE, or alternatives to IE. It is about how the use of the public networks and the Internet are evolving and how people and businesses will interface with the applications available across these networks. I've thought about how to respond to some of the posts in this thread - to at least encourage some thought about how each of us might influence the direction this takes.

We could all scribble here in incomplete ways - probably more to blow off some steam, or be entertained by Hal's link swarm - personally I like to think he's a passionate advocate of choice, but to such a degree that anything practical, no matter how good it may be, is bad "just because." The challenge there is if "choice" is the only decision made, then nothing is chosen and little is accomplished.

So what then? It really comes down to doing those things that provide the fuel to continue to pursue the inventions and innovation that result in progress and hopefully, significant improvements in human performance or the advancement of the human condition. Hal <sorry guy> would have us believe that just because current technologies don't use future technologies that we should all embrace and "fix" technologies experimented with in the 60's and 70's - resurrected by a student learning to build OS'es using an OS designed to teach that very thing. Scary - like some sci-fi flick where the survivors of some great war salvage bits of this and that just to continue to exist.

I do know that how we use these networks must change - because not only has IE stagnated - the entire net has in large measure. Sure, there are islands of innovation, but they are too few - given the potential. So I find it odd that when the reality of what is being advanced is revealed, it is rejected without any measure of objective consideration in favor of an obstinate adherence to incomprehensible and largely irrelevant arguments expressed in the name of choice, or "standards" - these two do appear to contradict one another. So what to do? Provide an alternative? Share more? Surrender the net to kids who are convinced a scripting language is better than an IDpE (Production)? I think we'll have to settle for driving how the net is used in however small a segment we can provision.

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