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| Time: 09:15 EST/14:15 GMT | News Source: E-Mail | Posted By: Brian Kvalheim | ||
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Just as everyone was about ready to ditch Internet Explorer in favour of the less popular but theoretically less bug prone alternatives from Mozilla, a patch was issued to fix a recently discovered security hole in Mozilla, Firefox and Thunderbird. The bug, which only affects users running one of the above products on a Microsoft Windows platform, may allow an attacker to cause a machine to freeze. Although not necessarily hugely damaging to the client machine, this is still a blow to the Mozilla Foundation, as it will cause confidence in their products to drop. | ||
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| #26 By 7797 (63.76.44.15) at 7/9/2004 6:22:23 PM |
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I think this is my favorite one of the bunch. It really highlights how much you really know!
"It's funny, but actually Linux is too bloated to be used for embedded devices." |
| #27 By 135 (208.186.90.168) at 7/9/2004 11:22:04 PM |
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Wow this is getting bad.
Halcyon - "it's called having security policies for different users. Since Wndows was not originally a multi-user system, thy did not implement this. " Ok, this is actually completely irrelevant to this topic, but whatever... I guess I can see that you are really reaching for a way out of the argument. Windows does have different security policies for different users, in fact the variety of ACLs and policy settings you can apply is much more finely detailed than what you get by default in Unix. "You need to log in as root to do what you said. Otherwise, you can't mess up the system. " The same is true with Windows. reboot - "What you're telling me it is ok for the Windows OS to let IE or Mozilla do as it wants with no security checks and operate with an admin privilege?" I'm going to bold this because it seems to be the source of the problem here, a rather complete lack of understanding of the technical details... Neither IE or Mozilla, launched by an enduser with standard User or Power User permissions, running on Windows... executes with an admin privilege. Halcyon, tgnb, reboot, etc. can all apologize fo trying to start an argument because you apparently are all under this same misunderstanding. |
| #28 By 135 (208.186.90.168) at 7/9/2004 11:30:34 PM |
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Halcyon - "It's obvious who are the zealots, this problem only happens in XP, not even in any of the other Windows versions, not in Linux, not in OS X"
Oh good grief, I feel like I'm talking to a child. Why can't you listen to the discussion and learn from it? Why must you keep repeating the same points over and over again even though they've been shot down? The reason why this is only a problem in XP is because only XP supports this shell: mechanism. Linux, OS/X and such do not. But the problem exists in Mozilla because it implicitly trusts everything sent to it by a web server, even if it doesn't know what that is. So the behavior was to pass this of to the OS to process. Which I can understand why they might have done because the OS would handle a rm: descriptor for Real Audio, or a mms: for Windows Media, or any number of other examples. But the problem is that while a shell: call is a perfectly reasonable operation when performed locally on the Windows box, it's not something that should be passed off by a browser to the OS when executed from a remote location. "yet the improperly patched flaws in IE just don't seem to matter! " Nobody ever said that. I think it's a very real concern. However, what I stated last week was that the advice being promoted by a lot of zealots that you should abandon IE and move to Mozilla was ignorant as Mozilla also had security problems and you were promoting a false sense of security to the uninformed end-user. This week, in a stroke of interesting timing, a major hole was found in Mozilla proving my point. That's the sum total of my point, that's all I ever stated. I just questioned the Zealots who like to promote fiction as fact. you realize that just because you wish the sky was purple doesn't make it so, I hope? |
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