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Updated: Apple makes copycat jibe at Microsoft | |
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| Time: 17:06 EST/22:06 GMT | News Source: PCPro.co.uk | Posted By: Todd Richardson | ||
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Posters on display at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference are taking an undisguied swipe at Microsoft's Longhorn, the next version of Windows. MacMinute reports that the banners make less-than-subtle suggestions that Redmond-based Microsoft might copy one or two things from Mac OS X 10.4 'Tiger', which will be previewed for the first time this evening. Update: To check out the banners, click here. | ||
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| #26 By 3339 (64.160.58.135) at 6/28/2004 8:25:49 PM |
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"Just because it has 64 bit memory address capability does not make the OS 64 bit. It is still just a 32bit OS running on 64 bit hardware, just like Windows XP can run on AMD64 hardware."
No, you are wrong. I listed memory addressing as one of the 64 bit features. Why are you ignoring all of the others? They are adding the 64-bit APIs, fool. As the quote above says, existing 64-bit Linux apps will run on Tiger. XCode can create 64 bit apps and fat binaries. You are the only thing fake here, Parkker. |
| #27 By 11888 (64.230.8.103) at 6/28/2004 8:57:25 PM |
| Sheesh, Parkker needs a girlfriend. There seems to be a lot of pent up something there. |
| #28 By 8589 (66.169.175.39) at 6/28/2004 9:54:01 PM |
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I have learned to just ignore the MS bashers. They are either Linux fanboys, or Mac-n-trash droids.
Microsoft RULZ, get over it you also rans. As a matter of fact, get out of here. YOu are not wanted or welcome. As I have posted many many times, this is activeWIN.com, which used to be ActiveIE.com Byron, Macs suck. Just go into any BestBuy, Compusa, Fry's ... and you will see their computer departments are devoted almost entirely to Micorosft based PC's. Byron, I remember back when IE 4.0 was in beta, you were a Microsoft supporter. You let these idiots play havoc with your mind. It is time to come home. Come home to Microsoft. P.S. I won't respond to flames, or idiots. Only those that agree with me. |
| #29 By 135 (208.186.90.168) at 6/28/2004 10:53:19 PM |
| So... Did everybody else get a Microsoft IT Securety Guidance Kit in the mail? |
| #30 By 9589 (66.57.159.150) at 6/29/2004 12:40:47 AM |
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Apple = irrelevancy hurtling toward oblivion . . .
The only realistic bet to make of Apple is when Microsoft will have to bail them out again! |
| #31 By 2459 (69.22.124.228) at 6/29/2004 9:47:53 AM |
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Say the keynote. Solely going on the way Jobs used Spotlight, it's more like Windows with the Indexing Service or (obviously) BeFS than WinFS.
Spotlight doesn't seem to support natural language searches. Either that, or Apple just didn't expose it in their UI. All of the searches Steve did were rigid, using UI controls to apply rules to the searches. He claimed you could do something like "Give me all documents from Steve Jobs related to WWDC 2004", but when actually demonstrating, he just typed a few keywords, then used the UI controls to filter by date, etc. Like I said, if true natural language searching is there, then good, but this was a bad demo on Steve's part. There's also the disconnected feeling to the search tech because they used several different approaches. The Finder search combines the search from other apps, but it still only uses the metadata for each individual file like current Windows versions. There's no way to utilize the metadata to automatically build relationships between the files. The only way to come close is either through the usual folder hierarchy or if you can somehow associate content from several places into one smart folder (like manually dragging a set of items to a smart folder), but this wasn't shown. It probably can't be done since the smart folders are just static searches. Though you could manually add the right metadata for the file you want to fit the smart folder's static querey. I may update later after watching the rest. The Windows Media quip :) Too bad they'll also have to support it if they want to play all HD-DVDs, and Windows Media consistently tested as having the same or higher quality encodes than H.264 and it's simpler to implement and requires less power. This post was edited by n4cer on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 at 09:54. |
| #32 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 6/29/2004 9:59:58 AM |
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#27 - "What's the difference between Apple's implementation of system-wide metadata indexing and seamless multi-repository search and the one in Longhorn?"
I don't believe I made any comments about Apple's metadata system, although the first thing that comes to mind is the way they're using it. Windows has had file system meta data for quite a while now. Many file types have "extra tabs" in the properties dialog that can contain more information about that particular kind of file. This data is nearly useless. What WinFS allows you to do, and what the Mac metadata system does not and cannot, is establish meanful relationships between data in addition to the extra information about that data. This is one of the big keys to how Longhorn will change how we use our computers. "The only wheel-reinvention feather I see in the hat of Microsoft is their modular web services technology, but since it's (yet another) proprietary Microsoftian technology, I have to wonder how much adoption it'll get. " I suggest you watch some of the longhorn concept videos. Each of these "pillars", as Microsoft likes to call them, are just pieces to the puzzle. They're all part of Microsoft's effort to get rid of the tired computing analogies like files, folders, desktops, etc. The line between documents and applications will soon blur or entirely disappear. This is something that Apple simply will not be able to duplicate because it rests entirely on code access security in .NET - something Apple has no equivalent of. (Unless you count the .NET implementations that run on the Mac, but Apple has completely ignored those.) Again, Apple is making things pretty while Microsoft is doing the real innovation. Oh, and by the way, Indigo (the "modular web services" thing you mentioned" is hardly proprietary. It's based on open specs, all of which will be submitted to the ISO and ECMA, just like much of .NET is. (And unlike Java, I might mention.) This post was edited by RMD on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 at 10:02. |
| #33 By 2459 (69.22.124.228) at 6/29/2004 10:40:24 AM |
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Core Image/Video
Apple is slowly building their version of DirectX. Core Image/Video is Apple's version of DX Media. DX already supports realtime image/video manipulation and filters/transitions. Windows Graphics Foundataion (in Longhorn) provides a more generalized platform for using GPUs for visual as well as non-visual (general purpose) processing tasks. Docs/slides are already available detailing this. |
| #34 By 15705 (69.22.124.228) at 6/29/2004 12:56:47 PM |
| Thanks, gotq. Posting on front page. |
| #35 By 2459 (69.22.124.228) at 7/2/2004 2:55:49 AM |
| Only if running MCE. |
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