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Time:
10:02 EST/15:02 GMT | News Source:
The Register |
Posted By: Todd Richardson |
Opinion: To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it, writes SecurityFocus columnist Scott Granneman.
We've all heard it many times when a new Microsoft virus comes out. In fact, I've heard it a couple of times this week already. Someone on a mailing list or discussion forum complains about the latest in a long line of Microsoft email viruses or worms and recommends others consider Mac OS X or Linux as a somewhat safer computing platform. In response, another person named, oh, let's call him "Bill," says, basically, "How ridiculous! The only reason Microsoft software is the target of so many viruses is because it is so widely used! Why, if Linux or Mac OS X was as popular as Windows, there would be just as many viruses written for those platforms!"
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#26 By
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10/8/2003 11:52:38 PM
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Jerk, you didn't address my question.
X, what the heck does IP have to do with anything? For instance, go to system32. Delete cmd.exe. Assuming the ACL allows you to delete it, it'll go a way. Wait about five seconds or less, then see that cmd.exe is back. So, yes, you're right, you can delete stuff, but the stuff, if it is WFP (Windows File Protection) 'ed, the it'll come right back.
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#27 By
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at
10/9/2003 12:19:29 AM
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Well, yeah, you can always kill it from dllcache. To see that, though, you have to make system and hidden files viewable.
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#28 By
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sodajerk - "soda, we are talking about companies and the way they design and build their software."
I wish that's what we were talking about, but you said this... "I mention it to demonstrate that there are differences to security models and that MS's has had problems that have never and would never occur on other platforms."
Security model implies technological architecture.
So I'm still waiting for the proof you are going to provide that the Unix security model prevents these types of applications from being written.
Instead you look to attack Microsoft for listening to endusers rather than their brain when implementing a feature. A feature, I might add, which was implemented early on before anybody understood the full nature of what was possible on the Internet... and a feature which has since been relegated to the history annals by the past 3 releases.
So you don't want to talk about current state, and you don't want to talk about the issues that you brought up. I'm sensing that you are feeling a bit uncomfortable.
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#29 By
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dkg_ctc - "Since when is the fact that you can configure something to be insecure an example of insecurity in the OS/applications? Or am I just missing the point completely? "
Since ABMers couldn't come up with an intelligent argument.
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