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  Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Honored as 'Friend of Education'
Time: 11:07 EST/16:07 GMT | News Source: PR Newswire | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Bill and Melinda Gates are being honored with the "Friend of Education" award by the National Association of State Boards of Education. The award is given annually to recognize individuals or organizations whose efforts on behalf of education are deemed to be of outstanding benefit to the students in the nation's schools. The award is being presented during NASBE's Annual Conference

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#26 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 8:53:24 PM
No, Jesus was not anti government. He taught his followers to live the law of the Romans. He taught them to live the law of the Jews. If the law of God conflicts with the laws of the land, that is, perhaps, another story. In all cases other than this, he very much lived the law of the land. He even submitted to Jewish and Roman authority in allowing himself to be arrested, beaten, and executed. That sounds to me like he supported the laws of the land.

#27 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 8:57:54 PM
I hope you do it in a way that your representatives will hear you too. I don't know too many Congressmen that read activewin.

Also, if you want the best results, I'd polish your presentation skills, if I were you. I'd argue that the reason nobody has jumped on the bandwagon with you, even when they agree with a lot of what you say, is because you present it very harshly.

#28 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 10/15/2002 8:58:50 PM
You think the best way to accomplish your goals is to rail against Bill and Melinda Gates in a geek community site where forty or fifty people who don't give a sh1t about your opinion are trying to discuss Windows? You've gotta stop listening to Rush and find a better role model, moron.

The homeless dude I see on the street every morning has more inciteful wisdom, and a better platform and venue, and a better style of deliver, and a more effective method of presenting his ideas than you, brother!

#29 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:00:04 PM
I don't want to put words in your mouth, so I've got to ask, what does "everything in his power" mean? I've seen people bomb clinics where abortions are performed. That is in my power to do, but I do not think that I have any authority to commit murder to prevent murder. Neither God nor the people have given me that authority.

#30 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:08:22 PM
ah, that's good. there are many who in the name of Christianity do horrible things. We should do everything legal to change it. I agree with you on that completely.

#31 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 10/15/2002 9:08:47 PM
mhfm, you just worked yourself into the stupidest circular argument, you do understand that right. I think you meant "everything moral", fool!

#32 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:10:20 PM
ah, sodajerk, tactful as ever. ; - )

#33 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:27:18 PM
I never said that speaking freely against what you feel are unfair laws is anti Government. Are you trying to understand me? or just argue with me?

BTW, what is the reference for the scripture quoted above?

#34 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:37:28 PM
The way you come accross is one who favors revolution, not one who favors free speach. The way you talked, it sounded like one trying to incite a riot, not one voicing his opinion as a citizen. Also, I hope you remember that you feel some laws are unfair, but other don't hold that same opinion. It is possible that what you now think unfair isn't really unfair, but rather than you don't see all the issues clearly and in your limited vision they seem unfair. On the other hand, you could be right.

#35 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:44:26 PM
On the taxes issue, my personal opinion is this - it is the duty of a citizen to obey the laws of the land. It is the duty of those who make the laws to make good laws. Even if the laws are bad (too high taxes), a citizen should still obey them. If the laws are bad, then God will judge them for their works. If I've done my best to be a good citizen and an obdient follower of Christ (and paying taxes doesn't make me a bad follower of Christ), then God will judge me for my works. I think the bottom line is that ultimately judgement and vengeance are in the hands of God.

See Romans 12:19 for reference.
http://scriptures.lds.org/rom/12/19#19

#36 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:46:22 PM
Well, starting a revolution is treason. If you are willing to risk your life for that, then that is your choice.

This post was edited by BobSmith on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 21:46.

#37 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 9:51:16 PM
If "Not in a million years" means that you wouldn't risk your life for your cause, then that answers your question "what would be so wrong about it".

#38 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 10:02:19 PM
Treason against the King of England, yes.

#39 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 10/15/2002 10:43:22 PM
Actually I think we can summarize this discussion by simply stating that mhfm is clearly ignorant and misguided.

#40 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 10:48:10 PM
I don't know of many people in the world who could meet the criteria of those we are to vote for if we don't want to go to hell according to your article.

So how would you describe God? I see God as our Heavenly Father. Since God is our Father, we are all brothers and sisters. He's perfect, kind, just, merciful, loving. He wants us to be happy. He gave us commandments to help us live in happiness and peace. Two things prevent us from being happy and returning to live with him - sin and death. He sent his son, Jesus Christ, to overcome sin and death.

Is this inline with your beliefs?

#41 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 10:49:01 PM
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#42 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/16/2002 12:12:03 AM
AW, What's with the TOS violation?

#43 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/16/2002 12:14:54 AM
IIRC I said that sodablue should watch himself, since people have said the same about him (referring to his last post). Ah, did you think I was saying that he was going to hell? I'm just lost on this one. My speach was concilliatory not accusatory, so I see no reason for the censorship in this case.

#44 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/16/2002 1:57:57 AM
m, he has some interesting points. All I seem to hear from him is anger and judgement. I don't seem to hear mercy and turning the other cheek. That kind of bothers me.

As for beliefs, I'm glad we agree on the fundamentals.

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