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  Sun may get seat in Web services group
Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Todd Richardson

A proposal being considered by a key Web services organization could pave the way for Sun Microsystems to join on equal footing with rivals Microsoft and IBM. But continued political battling could sidetrack the effort. The board of directors of the Web Services Interoperability Organization (WS-I), an organization founded by IBM and Microsoft to promote Web services, voted unanimously on Monday to create a committee to develop a process for electing two new board members.

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#1 By 2459 (24.206.97.178) at 6/20/2002 10:35:37 AM
The resounding stupidity of Sun:

"The WS-I requires companies to join as members before they can be considered for board positions."

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At a press conference Wednesday, Sun executives reiterated that the company will only join the WS-I as a founding member.

"We are confident we will be offered a founding membership," said Marge Breya, vice president of the Sun Open Network Environment (SunONE) software division.

Or, as Jonathan Schwartz, head of Sun's software operations, said: "Don't expect us to join WS-I as anything other than a founding member."
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How the (bleep) are they going to join as a founding member when you must join as a regular member to be considered for board positions?

More Sun stupidity later in the article.

#2 By 2459 (24.206.97.178) at 6/20/2002 10:41:23 AM
Sun has also voiced concerns that IBM and Microsoft might charge "tolls" to developers, in the form of royalties on patents, for using existing Web services specifications including the Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP), Web Services Description Language (WSDL) and Universal Description, Discovery and Integration (UDDI).

Sun's Schwartz said on Wednesday that the company likes those standards, however, "we're very worried about the royalties associated with the use of (those standards). We do not believe in taxing people for use of those standards."

Neither Microsoft nor IBM have formally stated a desire to charge royalties on the standards, which are in part based on patents held by them.

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Yet Sun has no problem charging royalties on Java (which they claim is a standard).

#3 By 1845 (12.254.231.45) at 6/20/2002 9:50:52 PM
Sun should remember that it is a hardware company and get out of the software business.

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