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Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

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#1 By 8556 (173.27.244.6) at 10/7/2010 12:43:46 PM
With about half of Windows users still running XP, making Vista SP2 or Windows 7 a requirement is not wise. Half of their customer base is cut off. They will not upgrade to Windows 7 just to install WLE 2011. There are plenty of free alternatives to the various apps in Windows Live Essentials 2011 that they will get used to using in the meantime.

#2 By 23603 (74.57.49.101) at 10/7/2010 12:50:14 PM
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Or XP users can still use the older Windows Live Messeger ???


#3 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 10/7/2010 1:39:13 PM
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How many years should MS be supporting XP?

My mom (age 86) still uses the Win98 notebook computer I bought for her in 2000. She adamantly refuses to give it up and has taken back 2 or 3 subsequent notebook computers with XP and Vista (I gave up before Win7 came out).

Should they still support Win98 too?

#4 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/7/2010 3:25:03 PM
The question boils down to whether or not XP is unsupported for technological reasons or political reasons. Simple economics says that MS must support XP as a client for LE as that OS makes up ~60% of their user base -- as long as it is technically feasible and not too disruptive to the other dev streams. If it's a political decision and LE is being made to be a carrot, then either the MS execs are idiots who over-value Live Essentials, or it really is so awesome that you'll buy a new OS/PC just to use it.

#5 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 10/7/2010 4:22:11 PM
Windows Live Essentials is consumer facing. What percentage of Windows XP users are end consumers, vice large business users where the majority of XP installs remain?

The majority of consumers are not running XP. Also, XP ships with many of the applications that are native to that version of Windows - a mail client, Movie Maker, etc...

The percentage of consumers that are running XP is much smaller than many assume.

#6 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/8/2010 3:34:11 PM
#5: What percentage of Windows XP users are end consumers, vice large business users...

No idea. How many?

The majority of consumers are not running XP.

Says who? Can you even begin to get a realistic number for this?

The percentage of consumers that are running XP is much smaller than many assume.

Tell us already and we won't have to assume any more.

I would guess the other way and believe that most are running XP. Average users don't buy a new PC every 2 years if the old one runs Facebook just fine, and the whole Vista debacle may have cautioned a lot of them to sit on their upgrade plans.

#7 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 10/10/2010 1:58:26 PM
#6, I can only look at the numbers I can personally confirm - from among my own customers:
97.3% of customer computers used at home are running Windows 7, or Windows Vista.

Just over 70% of all business computers we manage directly run Windows Vista, or Windows 7.

100% of customers have replaced some of their Windows XP machines with Windows 7 and all plan to continue their replacements until completed.

Where XP is still used, it is on older secondary, or tertiary machines used as downlevel Internet terminals as Latch's Facebook observation suggests. These are aging rapidly and plans exist for most to move up to small, lighter weight Windows 7 based slates expected this holiday season. Chairside terminals now running XP embedded are scheduled to receive upgrades this year - running Windows 7 embedded.

Office 2010 and SharePoint 2010 are also very popular and upgrades are in progress for these as well. Smaller businesses (usually specialized accounting and legal firms with fewer than 10 systems) have all moved to 7 and Office 2010. Engineering firms have been slower, as costly upgrades to AutoCAD and its extras, required new versions - so as support contracts expired for those, new i7 based systems with 7 and Office 2010 were ordered. This upgrade cycle has accelerated greatly, as i7's on 7 x64 and the DirectCompute API leveraged by Nvidia within CUDA allow AutoCAD work to be performed far more quickly than before.

WS08 adoption is even faster - especially RemoteAPP implementations of previously Remote Desktop Services (RDS) (Terminal Services under W2K3 Server) - banks and medical practices lead here, where DWM desktop composition at the client allows Vista/7 to shine and lift a lot of load from host RDS systems - it also provides desktop functionality for terminal apps (e.g., the app without a hidden desktop being rendered in the background and without the asynchronous load associated with compositions remote users never even saw). Jack Henry, OD/MD Pro from EMR, and OrthoTrac are relevant examples in such cases. Users love it!

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