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Rancid IE6 'more secure' than Chrome and Opera US bank says | |
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| Time: 08:51 EST/13:51 GMT | News Source: The Register | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Microsoft's creaking Internet Explorer 6 is more secure and popular than either Google's Chrome or Opera US banking giant Chase has determined. The bank's therefore decided its online baking services will continue to support aging the IE 6 but drop support for Chrome and Opera. IE 6 is nine years old and even Microsoft is now desperately speaking out against the browser, to get individuals and businesses to move on to IE 8. | ||
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| #1 By 2960 (72.205.26.164) at 6/29/2010 1:20:55 PM |
| Wow... Glad I'm not part of their IT department. |
| #2 By 17855 (205.167.180.131) at 6/29/2010 2:10:01 PM |
| They probably run Oracle JInitiator technology... |
| #3 By 72426 (76.216.60.185) at 6/29/2010 8:49:48 PM |
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The sad thing is, they are technically correct. A fully patched IE6 is more secure.
Note the key words here - 'fully patched'. IE6 unpatched is where you find nightmares of security past... |
| #4 By 143 (216.205.223.146) at 6/29/2010 9:16:53 PM |
| Sounds like JP Morgan Chase IT department is making a scapegoat out of Chrome and Opera. When a security breach happens just blame everybody else and their thumb drives. |
| #5 By 8556 (173.27.246.50) at 6/29/2010 11:30:36 PM |
| There may be some behind the scenes politics involved here. Are they trying to convince MS to continue support for IE6 in order to keep from having to recode? |
| #6 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 6/30/2010 9:05:57 AM |
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#3: No, they're not correct -- technical or otherwise. I can't believe anyone here would actually say that, or even worse believe it.
#5: That would be my guess. They are either grossly incompetent, or they have a reason for clinging to IE that they don't want to admit to. |
| #7 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 6/30/2010 11:57:19 AM |
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my my... how so many are so naive.
Yes, IE 6, 7, 8 and soon 9, have always been most secure-able. It has always been true and managing zone and systems has since XP/IE 6, been quite easy to control their settings via centrally managed policy. The bane of IE - the "dreaded" DCOM/COM Client... can be and is most often entirely controlled and only those controls needed for work being allowed. Good admins all over the world have NEVER had an issue with IE, or mal-ware - it just simply is not an issue and those asserting otherwise, the same ones using NOSCRIPT and carping for FF, simply have no real clue about how to manage systems. The good people asserting that protecting IE from the Internet is possible are entirely correct and outside the small minded enclaves where pundits roam around free to say any ole thing they wish, sober men handily manage client computers and people get real work done. These days, despite users and the many things they can do on their own to hurt themselves, more modern versions of IE are safer than ever - even when people work at being careless. |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 6/30/2010 1:02:00 PM |
| #7: You again with that 'IE is awesome' nonsense? Does MS pay you by the word? I wish I could be paid per eye-roll from anyone who reads your alternate-reality posts. So, IE's universal, well-earned reputation for calamity is just a PR problem? Also, remember that this is about IE6. All your usual pronouncement about IE (you know, make sure you're running IE9 x64 with ABC, EFG and LMNOP turned on, on a Win7 box with this, that and the other thing disabled, NIC unplugged, all configured by an MS Partner) don't apply here. |
| #9 By 8556 (173.27.246.50) at 6/30/2010 2:04:21 PM |
| Lloyd: The issue is that IE6 support is ending. To be able to keep it secure, wouldn't it make sense for a large financial institution to lobby for ongoing support? Being naive is not the issue with IE6. |
| #10 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 6/30/2010 2:24:56 PM |
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#8, You're fired. That is what you would hear here the second you implied that IE could not be managed and therefore secured. No other browser can be. (native integrated central management matters and it matters in small companies as well as large).
Don't be confused about actions end users on their own can take with what I am speaking to and do not intentionally bring in end user lay circumstances that do not apply. I am speaking to managed systems on well managed networks that make the fullest use of the Internet - safely. #9, Yes, IE 6 support is ending and options for extended support do exist and I am certain, factored into budgets and planning. Where it makes sense, shops will migrate to Win7/IE 8 and use virtualization where necessary to support older internal apps that IE 6 will be restricted to. Others will pay for extended support or even more tightly control access policies until they are ready to upgrade. |
| #11 By 228224 (74.59.86.16) at 6/30/2010 6:06:35 PM |
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#4: Just like Google made a scapegoat out of IE6?
Personally, there are enough reasons to go to IE8. I never had an issue with IE6 [or IE7] but IE8 improves on things. #9 & 10: I don't know where you got the info that IE6 support is dying [nothing on the MS site]. I've spoken with some MS people and they said [although it could be the company's "line"] that IE6 support will die only when XP dies in 2014. This has been their policy. Support for a component that came with Windows only dies when the OS dies. After all, IE5 is finally dying next month when Win 2000 ceases to get support. Talking about an unsecure [and crappy] browser. There are plenty of large companies that are still [unfortunately] using IE6. Intel, Chase, CN, etc. |
| #12 By 143 (216.205.223.146) at 7/1/2010 8:50:24 PM |
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Looks like IBM thinks different.
IBM embraces Firefox, adopts it internally http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/ibm-embraces-firefox-adopts-it-internally.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss |
| #13 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 7/2/2010 6:20:04 AM |
| Considering they said they were dropping Windows a few years ago, wouldn't they have had to make this move back then? |
| #14 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 7/3/2010 6:17:58 PM |
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#12 " IBM plans to roll it out to employees on new computers and will encourage its staff of 400,000 to use it on their existing systems."
Translation: Not mandatory. Go ahead, use what you want for 3-4 years until we get you a new PC. |
| #15 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/5/2010 10:31:29 AM |
| #10: You're playing your word game again. Sure, IE can be secured, just like a door made of 1mm thick balsa wood can be secured with a piece of duct tape. The security mechanisms are ineffective and crap, but they can be used. So in that context, IE can be secured by twiddling various flags, but you'll still be owned with the exploit of the week. |
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