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  MS Vail Public Preview
Time: 15:55 EST/20:55 GMT | News Source: Microsoft | Posted By: John Quigley

Windows Home Server code name "Vail" Public Preview is now available! Please review the Getting Started Guide before you install the preview. Also, note that this build is for evaluation purposes only. You should not install this in a production environment. Microsoft does not support installing in these environments.

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#1 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 4/27/2010 7:41:42 AM
WHS is becoming more and more interesting; now considering that the OS is 64 bit only I wonder how long we will have to wait to see a 64 bit build of Silverlight.

Besides this detail this Version 2 of the OS is great; I hope that MS will make avalilable at retail avoiding to repeat the mistakes they made with Media Center.

This post was edited by Fritzly on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 at 07:42.

#2 By 2960 (72.205.26.164) at 4/27/2010 11:59:08 AM
Can you upgrade an in-place V1 WHS?

#3 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 4/27/2010 1:26:07 PM
#2, no.

No path from 32 to x64 bit.

#4 By 2960 (72.205.26.164) at 4/27/2010 1:49:44 PM
Shit. I knew that. LOL.

#5 By 2960 (72.205.26.164) at 4/27/2010 1:57:24 PM
I've got an old AMD 3500 machine I think I'll use for this. I've got a couple of old 300GB drives I took out of my current WHS before I replaced them with 6 1TB drives about 8 months ago.

I hope 512MB RAM is ok. The documentation is a bit slim :)

#6 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 4/27/2010 2:27:07 PM
Gents,

Some comments on other sites note that this version of WHS is not going to use NTFS. I don't get that. Any thoughts?

#7 By 8556 (173.27.246.50) at 4/27/2010 3:55:26 PM
#6: I believe, to the contrary, that NTFS is the only supported file system.

#8 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 4/27/2010 4:17:18 PM
#6: this seems almost impossible to me: my understanding is that Veil is based on Windows Server 2008 R2.

#9 By 23275 (172.16.10.179) at 4/27/2010 4:22:24 PM
"(Microsoft started considering splitting WHS in two back in September 2008. Furthermore, you'll need a 2GHz CPU, 1GB of RAM, as well as a 120GB/160GB primary hard drive (NTFS is the only supported file system)."

#10 By 1677 (173.50.131.2) at 4/27/2010 4:39:51 PM
The NTFS thing is weird. The WHS magic driver that allows for duplication and the like sits below the filesystem driver. It actually generates these 1GB stripes of data and then exposes those contents up through NTFS. So you will not be able to take these drives, put then in some other random windows computer and read the data off them.

"Internally, these NTFS volumes are sliced and diced into 1 GB chunks, which are distributed (in multiple copies if duplication is enabled) across multiple physical disks according to our own on-disk schema. DEVolume.sys (our driver, working only on Vail at the moment) is the only driver currently in existence that can parse this layout and present the aforementioned NTFS volumes to applications. Consequently, any system not running DEVolume.sys is currently unable to retrieve the data from directly connected DEv2 disks -- that includes all client Windows OS" - From an MSFT person

#11 By 1677 (173.50.131.2) at 4/27/2010 4:41:39 PM
Just saw this: http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/whsvailbeta/thread/32844aae-9f41-41cb-8a4a-f6c26ddfdd6f

Still digesting myself. I'm not loving this solution though. I liked WHS specifically because it was NTFS and thus easy to recover data should the set break.

#12 By 23275 (172.16.10.179) at 4/27/2010 5:44:18 PM
#11, the "Duplicate" feature that protects data from single drive failure is RAID-less, and borrows from storage server's technologies.

The single drive upon which the system is based - and its free space constraining any single object's size (so use a large drive to start with!), can itself be backed up and recovered the same way one would any other single drive system.

The entire idea behind this however, is like storage server, and even newer BU appliances, that RAID was abandoned in favor of storage server's method (Single instance Storage (SIS)).
More here, http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/WSS08/SIS.aspx

#13 By 8556 (173.27.246.50) at 4/28/2010 12:16:46 AM
Has anyone downloaded WHS Vail from Connect? My listing for WHS shows Status:Tracking. Since other connections show participating, I wonder if I have an issue to clear up at MS.

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