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| Time: 13:21 EST/18:21 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Recently, various outlets, such as TechCrunch, had reported that an early build of Chrome OS has been leaked into the wild. Well, I hate to tell you but those reports weren’t exactly accurate. What leaked was in fact was an Alpha/Beta implementation of the Chromium browser that will be used in Chrome OS. As such, it was distributed in .deb package format, which is the very same format used by Debian-based Linux distributions, such as Ubuntu. | ||
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| #1 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 10/16/2009 6:34:20 PM |
| Fabulous. Just what the world needs another browser. And from Google no less. |
| #2 By 16797 (70.48.178.33) at 10/16/2009 7:22:51 PM |
| Leaked... just on time to spoil official launch of Win 7? :-) |
| #3 By 79018 (74.70.9.133) at 10/17/2009 7:33:22 AM |
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I for one know a number of people this new OS would be perfect for.
As with Ubuntu the operative word is Free. I pre-ordered Win7. but on my second PC this would be fine. |
| #4 By 28801 (71.58.225.185) at 10/17/2009 8:48:00 AM |
| I will try it out on a T23 I have laying around. |
| #5 By 143 (96.28.65.208) at 10/17/2009 9:39:20 AM |
| Smells like Linux someone better open a window. |
| #6 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 10/17/2009 12:25:19 PM |
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not sure how I feel about this one and that is the right word here... "feel" I've not studied it enough to form anything more than that.
On the surface I worry about how Google interprets the word evil and how that impacts privacy. On the other I want to see intense competition that will drive Microsoft to break off a consumer version of its OS into two separate versions - wild touch dominate interfaces and a lightweight OS for similar devices and cloud only services. Still comes back to worrying about the relationships between corporations and big government, so for now, I'm erroring on the side of real caution and deep concern. |
| #7 By 15406 (99.240.77.173) at 10/18/2009 1:02:00 PM |
| #6: What is it exactly that you are deeply concerned about in relation to Chrome OS? |
| #8 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 10/18/2009 1:40:46 PM |
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#7, How effectively Google can cross correlate massive amounts of information about an individual person and to whom they provide that information. The profiles they are able to develop and one thing, how they do and can use them, and or how they share whem and with whom is what concerns me most.
If we ever move to a model where all we have access to is a thin client model passing through Google's (or any other) network, I simply will not use it. Increasingly, I am encouraging people to consider, cryptocloud https://www.cryptocloud.com/ Governments are massive and becoming more so and the relationships with big corporations are closer than ever. Regardless of how benign my, or any other person's online activity may be, it should be protected from intrusion and monitoring. I do see the likes of Google as being among the most serious threats to individualism that exist today. Sadly, individual liberty and equally, individual responsibility and accountability have been deprecated in favor of government intervention and worse, ruling elite of every stripe are all too eager to leverage this in order to gain and remain in power. It's ironic that technologies so capable of freeing man, are the very ones equally capable of enslaving him - a free and open Internet requires an absolute respect for personal privacy. This means that even when we can, we don't take advantage of what we know, or can do - regardless of what it may cost us. This post was edited by lketchum on Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 14:50. |
| #9 By 8556 (173.27.242.53) at 10/18/2009 4:42:35 PM |
| 5: "On the surface I worry about how Google interprets the word evil". I concur. Google has flexible morals. However, a Google OS will have little effect on any Windows user. The widespread Linux community will be impacted as Google adds yet another version to dilute it further. |
| #10 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 10/19/2009 6:34:28 AM |
| I agree that there are way too many Linux distros - Hell, users have problems choosing the proper version of Windows. However, Google has the money and and resources to move their distro to the forefront, and to become the biggest fish in the Linux pond. This will move the mainstream choice from Linux version A or B or C etc. vs. Windows 7 to Google OS vs. Windows 7. |
| #11 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2009 8:47:47 AM |
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#8: I've never understood the fear some people have of Google. If you don't want them to hoover your information, don't put it on the public Internet to begin with. I did a search based on my name and all it came up with is some old forum posts and some code I donated to a software repository 12 years ago. That's it. I don't believe in social networking sites like Facebook and MySpace. I don't broadcast my life online. I use pseudonyms for exactly that reason. Are you sure that you're not just FUDding Google because they're a major competitor of Microsoft? ;)
#9: I'd take flexible morals over no morals whatsoever any day. Some would argue that corporations are, by definition, amoral. 'Evil' goes to intent. While I've seen Microsoft do some nasty, immoral, and even evil things, I can't say I've seen the same from Google. This isn't directed specifically at you, but I have to shake my head in amazement when people who give Microsoft an eternal pass pronounce Google as bad or evil. It's the pinnacle of hypocrisy, like a Mafia hitman complaining about jaywalkers. #10: There are really only 4-5 top-tier Linux distros; everything else is niche. |
| #12 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 10/19/2009 9:12:52 AM |
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#11, My concern begins with search anonymization, which Google does not do - they do the reverse. In this context, Microsoft has a much better and clearly stated policy, the make anonymous all searches and the instant they are made.
Microsoft's misdeeds have been directed at other companies and they have paid and are paying for them. Google's policies are directed at regular people who have no means to take them to task. |
| #13 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 10/19/2009 9:33:11 AM |
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#11: "4-5 top-tier Linux distros;"
That's fine, but there is no brand recognition there. If you slap Google on one of them and throw in a Super Bowl commercial then suddenly it will become the #2 OS. |
| #14 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2009 10:49:30 AM |
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#12: By 'search anonymization', do you mean the association of search queries with IP addresses? Presumably, that's to allow for targeted adverts. I'm not sure I see what the big deal is, or why this is something to be distrustful of.
#13: Brand may get it more notice that it otherwise would receive, but they have to deliver a good distro or users won't stick with it. It won't succeed just because it's got Google's name on it. |
| #15 By 23275 (68.117.163.128) at 10/19/2009 11:10:08 AM |
| #14, It's more complex than that. Search ‘anonymization’ is only the beginning and what Google does/does not do beyond that is what gives me pause. Cross correlating search information with other collected variables is in my view, a clear violation of privacy. As Google continues to draw in people and businesses with other offerings that leverage their search and profiling technologies, they have to be prevented from monitoring people. They must also be prevented from sharing the intelligence they are building, or selling it and most especially to any level of government. |
| #16 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2009 1:04:29 PM |
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#15: Cross correlating search information with other collected variables is in my view, a clear violation of privacy.
I'm not sure how you figure that creating a aggregated data profile based on public information is a privacy violation. I'd be a LOT more worried about the gov't using an Echelon-style apparatus to profile and target citizens. ...they have to be prevented from monitoring people. That sounds nefarious. Are they monitoring people? Or are they simply collecting public data? The former is active while the latter is passive, and intent plays a very large part in determining the level of potential harm & abuse. They must also be prevented from sharing the intelligence they are building Their privacy policy claims that they do not share data except under certain conditions, but I do think that terms such as 'processing data' need to be clarified. Selling email lists to spammers could be considered 'processing data', for instance. and most especially to any level of government. I assume that the government already has more data on you & I than Google can get at. I believe that any time you give data to any online entity, there is a certain level of trust involved or you would not give that data. If the entity has broken that trust, then you avoid that entity. In Canada, I have no problem with Google collecting all my search terms over the years. However, if I were in China, I would not use Google (or any search engine) to search for things like 'Tiananmen square incident', 'June 4th incident' or 'Falun Gong'. At this point, I trust Google because I'm not afraid of what they might do with my superficial search data, and I haven't yet been burned by them or heard of them doing nasty things. |
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