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Time:
19:22 EST/00:22 GMT | News Source:
*Linked Within Post* |
Posted By: Andre Da Costa |
It's time once again for one of the great rituals in the IT industry: the launch of a Windows client operating system. Love Windows or hate it, the occasion is a time for comment from all quarters -- from those who say this, like every other, will be the biggest Windows release yet, to those who can reliably be counted upon to declare it the last major launch of a Microsoft client OS in a world that's moved on to a place where Windows no longer matters.
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#1 By
143 (216.205.223.146)
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9/28/2009 8:37:53 PM
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Again, why give up XP when it still does the job?
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#2 By
23603 (96.21.51.190)
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9/28/2009 10:56:05 PM
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@donpacman
In the Enterprise:
- Easier to deploy
- Easier to manage (3000 GPO)
- More secure
- MUI
- Bitlocker
- Bitlocker to GO
- VDI
- Media Center....which kick ass by the way
Enough? :-)
Beside, why would anyone want to install a 7 year old OS on a brand new QuadCore x64, 8 GB of RAM ??
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#3 By
23275 (68.117.163.128)
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9/28/2009 11:30:17 PM
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Direct Access
Remote App
Branch Cache Client (using Riverbed Technology)
XP Mode
Secure Startup
Sips electrical power power (Timer coalescing - CPU's idle waaaaaay down)
NAP Client
Desktop and Enterprise Search (if you have not tried Enterprise Search, do so now)
Federated search
SharePoint portal search - entirely unique to Windows 7 and a biggie!
Windows Recovery Environment - two default partitions making recoveries very quick
Windows Troubleshooting Platform
PowerShell Remoting
DNSSEC (confirms signed DNS entries and lookups reducing surface exposure)
Windows Biometric Framework
Trusted Installer (not even /System can make changes to keys!)
dispatcher lock(ing) has been removed (thank God)
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#4 By
143 (216.205.223.146)
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9/29/2009 12:35:32 AM
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@ EQ23
why would anyone want to install a 7 year old OS on a brand new QuadCore x64, 8 GB of RAM
You hit the nail on the head!
Why would anybody want to spend money in these hard times when their XP boxes are still working just fine?
Also, people who've bought Vista has been burnt with talk of Win8 beta testing just around the corner as well.
* Not to mention the toxic waste generated from old machines being tossed to support newer hardware and OS.
Sorry, if I sound like a wet blanket here.
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#5 By
23275 (68.117.163.128)
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9/29/2009 1:14:44 AM
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#4, Don't be sorry at all - you make some very valid points, and for many people, sticking with XP and their existing gear is the right thing to do.
The one thing we do have to remember, is as crazy as these times get, we can't stop trying to move forward. If we let any source suggest to us that we should accept some new diminished reality, we need to reject it. We're meant to aspire and out of the greatest of down times and failures can come the greatest of things. I've failed miserably more times than I can count and have had to start over and over... every time I learn something new that enables greater success than I could have imagined. The second we let some pundit, or politician, or some other hack tell us what our place should be, we should do the opposite - do the impossible.
Also, all old rigs we refurb and ship to people around the world. It's a great benefit to customers as it helps close sales and refurbs to kids, schools, and especially developing countries is a great way to re-purpose old grear. Interns and summer hires are always great sources of labor and the opportunity can be dual-purposed to train young people.
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#6 By
2201 (83.244.234.228)
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9/29/2009 4:06:40 AM
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#4
No he didn't confirm what you thought. If someone had the money to buy a Quad Core x64 with 8GB RAM, they are hardly going to use XP on it are they? They clearly have the money and is not going to quibble in buying the newest OS to take proper advantage of their new equipment.
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#7 By
23603 (208.67.168.177)
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9/29/2009 6:45:59 AM
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@donpacman
My point was regarding new PC ...not 5-6 year old PC.
I agree, with a 4-5-6 year old PC...stick with XP.
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#8 By
2960 (72.196.201.130)
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9/29/2009 10:35:04 AM
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#1,
First, MS has ceased Service Pack development.
Second, XP will always be a whore for spyware. There are just too many holes to plug.
Third, it's seven frickin' years old :)
Fourth, it is getting extremely time consuming to set up an XP machine these days. The driver base is too old, and it takes twice as long to install all the service packs post-install than it does to install the OS itself.
Finally, I'm simply tired of the old thing.
There could be an argument for it when Vista was the only alternative. With Windows 7 that argument is gone IMHO.
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#9 By
2960 (72.196.201.130)
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9/29/2009 10:36:28 AM
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Oh, and x64 is finally coming of age. The x64 version of XP was never intended to be a mass-use OS. It is a basically a quick and dirty build for professionals that really had to use in excess of 4GB of RAM addressable space.
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#10 By
2 (136.142.154.157)
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9/29/2009 1:45:58 PM
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Univeristy of Pgh still is installing XP on its network of 10,000 plus machines with no desire to install Vista or Windows 7
BTW: TechLarry, Happy 3600th!
This post was edited by AWBobStein on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 13:46.
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#11 By
89249 (64.207.240.90)
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9/30/2009 10:32:00 AM
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#1 Pushing it onto an old machine is worthless. Putting it on new hardware is well worthwhile for many reasons listed above not to mention if you use computers for 5-6 years a copy of the new OS costs next to nothing
#10 Bob I'd imagine UP has a licensing scheme that allows them access to the most recent OS's with 10k licenses. If so they're pretty nuts to not upgrade it as the retire older machines.
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#12 By
2960 (72.196.201.130)
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10/1/2009 9:01:57 AM
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And I still have 22,000 users on it. That doesn't mean it's right :) It just means I don't make that call :)
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#13 By
2960 (72.196.201.130)
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10/1/2009 9:03:05 AM
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Oh, and it doesn't make it wrong either :)
This discussion is in two groups. Corporate, and non-corporate. It will always be different between the two.
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#14 By
2960 (72.196.201.130)
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10/1/2009 9:04:48 AM
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I have a 5 year old IBM T42 with 1.5MB RAM and a 40GB HD. Win7 runs amazingly well on it, and the whole thing with drivers and laptop technologies is a LOT easier to deal with than with XP.
Win7 installed and gave me a green-board in the device manager. I didn't have to touch _a thing_.
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