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  VMware apologies for Microsoft YouTube video
Time: 14:07 EST/19:07 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

A VMware employee has fallen on his sword and apologised, after VMware’s marketing department attempted to be sneaky and anonymously posted a clip of Microsoft’s Hyper-V crashing onto YouTube.

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#1 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 6/11/2009 2:20:50 PM
Dumb. if you're going to take a page from the MS playbook, at least follow the directions. Don't post the video yourself; get one of your 'bough & paid for, in your pocket' analysts or journalists to post it for you. Then you have plausible deniability. Still, it's very unethical and I expect more from VMware.

#2 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 6/11/2009 2:58:50 PM
VMware was quite flakey in our shop. VM's would hang while installing VMware tools. I wasn't impressed. And the cost .... ouch.

#3 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 6/11/2009 3:27:28 PM
I've been running Workstation, Server and ESX for years without a problem. Maybe you're cursed?

#4 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 6/11/2009 9:59:51 PM
#3 The search engines disagree. Lots of people running ESX had the same problems.

"I’m guessing that most ESX administrators have experienced at least one time where a VM decides to hang leaving them unable to shut down or restart it.

You have half a dozen production VM’s running, you don’t have VMotion in place and this rogue VM that you need back up and running ASAP is sitting in a greyed out state.

..."

http://www.techhead.co.uk/vmware-esx-how-to-clear-a-hung-vm

I doubt you ever administered ESX.

#5 By 15406 (99.240.76.72) at 6/11/2009 10:03:55 PM
#4: Wow, one guy who guesses what others might have seen. I'm convinced.

#6 By 9589 (71.71.108.21) at 6/12/2009 1:40:21 AM
This was completely unnecessary on the part of EMC. VMware continues to have the edge at the enterprise level with ESX\VMmotion. We have had little issue with the above. While VMware's product is pricey it has saved us a great deal of money. For example, we have 78 four processor HP servers using EMC storage that have 1200 workloads (each workload has a separate Windows OS and application running on it) between them for our India and China operations. It takes a team of four engineers to manage the above.

With the greater computing power of the newest HP servers and improvement in EMC storage, we intend to double the workloads in the future while only increasing the number of servers and storage by 50%.

Microsoft is clearly behind in this area. Nevertheless, we have looked hard at their Windows Server 2008 offering and should they come up with a VMmotion capability, they would clearly have the edge because their pricing is significantly less.

#7 By 92283 (142.32.208.233) at 6/12/2009 10:12:25 AM
#5 There a hundreds of examples available.

#6 Windows Server 2008 R2 has Live Migration (VMotion).

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=fdd083c6-3fc7-470b-8569-7e6a19fb0fdf&DisplayLang=en

#8 By 9589 (76.6.27.110) at 6/12/2009 10:53:35 AM
#7. You're right. However, W2K8 R2 is still a RC. I agree that there is a considerable difference between Quick Migration and Live Migration. Live Migration has attributes similar to VMmotion.

I look forward to test driving it once it RTMs. Also, using Microsoft System Center, you can manage and monitor the server from the hardware to the application. System Center provides load analysis recommending where you can move server workloads to get the best performance. All of this at about 1/5 the cost.

Having said the above, our IT division is like most enterprise level IT divisions, it is slow to change especially if it ain't broke/it don't need fix'n. So, having come late to the party, Microsoft will have some hard sledging to get this product to displace VM where it is already installed including where I work. Where the two companies products are being evaluated for the first time, Microsoft may have the edge.

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