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Microsoft: We'll cripple Windows 7 on netbooks | |
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| Time: 13:31 EST/18:31 GMT | News Source: ComputerWorld | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Preston Gralla: In one of the worst marketing moves for an upcoming operating system I can ever recall, Microsoft has said that it will limit to three the number of applications people can run simultaneously on many Windows 7-equipped netbooks. I can't think of a better way to kill demand for the new operating system. | ||
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| #1 By 8556 (173.27.241.22) at 4/20/2009 2:07:00 PM |
| Run Virtual PC and install your current legal volume license of XP, then the sky's the limit for apps, unless MS cripples Virtual PC on Windows 7. |
| #2 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 4/20/2009 2:53:21 PM |
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"Why opt for a crippled version of Windows 7 on a netbook, when you get can Linux on it that runs as many applications as you want?"
Why opt for an OS like Linux that has very few applications compared to Windows that has millions and millions? Especially when you can upgrade "Starter Edition" for a few dollars or buy the non-Starter Edition up front. Linux is less and less relevant. |
| #3 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 4/20/2009 4:03:44 PM |
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#2: Why opt for an OS like Linux that has very few applications...
Really? How many does it have? 6? ... compared to Windows that has millions and millions? Most people don't confuse quantity for quality. |
| #4 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 4/20/2009 4:39:36 PM |
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Linux users tend to confuse "freedom" for quality ... where "freedom" is anything encumbered by the GPL's onerous terms.
Sure, OSS is good at churning out emacs clones in quantity. |
| #5 By 2201 (78.32.103.51) at 4/20/2009 4:56:59 PM |
| Stupid article, especially as Microsoft have already said that you can run ANY version on netbooks perfectly fine. |
| #6 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at 4/20/2009 7:13:28 PM |
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Also, the definition of what exactly is an "app" in this context needs to be understood - for example, security software does not debit from the 3 app limit - as many have asserted.
Given how most people are said to use 'netbooks' - for email, web surfing and light documents editing, it seems that the very uses pundits nearly all suggest 'most' people use, fit well within the limits of Win 7 starter. Finally, in-place upgrades on Windows 7 are going to be inexpensive, online and fast - a few bucks into owning the new machine, a person hits a download, the machine bubbles away for 10 minutes, and presto.... Windows 7 Home, or Pro.... OR.... people can stick within the limits so many industry pundits so often suggest users impose upon themselves willfully... you know... those repeating endlessly, that most users don't need an OS, or much machine in the first place, because all they do is web this, and light that.... |
| #7 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 4/21/2009 7:34:58 AM |
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I don't like it! It sounds like another "Vista Capable" debacle.
Why would MS want to do this? After all of the bad press that Vista received, you would think that MS would want to mend fences. The I'm a Mac commercials will have a field day with this. |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 4/21/2009 8:20:51 AM |
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#6: Given how most people are said to use 'netbooks' - for email, web surfing and light documents editing, it seems that the very uses pundits nearly all suggest 'most' people use, fit well within the limits of Win 7 starter.
Sounds like they'd get along just fine with Linux on their netbook without artificially-imposed limits on their computing. |
| #9 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at 4/21/2009 9:08:15 AM |
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Sounds like they'd get along just fine with Linux on their netbook without artificially-imposed limits on their computing.
Oh yeah, because CPA's are all over scrolling around large spreadsheets in Open Office on a tiny screen and engineers are way into waiting three days to render CAD drawings on a computer that... oh wait... won't run AutoDesk or AutoCAD at all, and designers are rocking with some GIMP after hooking up to their 22, and don't forget all those moms and dads whipping through HD video of their tot... yeah, they're all digging them some nine inch netbook and Linux. For the one with a head of bone and a mind of clay, Given how most people are said to use 'netbooks' - for email, web surfing and light documents editing, it seems that the very uses pundits nearly all suggest 'most' people use, fit well within the limits of Win 7 starter the entire point was that THEY DON"T and they can run any version of Windows 7 on a 'netbook' and they will very likely upgrade. |
| #10 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at 4/21/2009 9:10:22 AM |
| #7, That is a very strong argument and entirely valid AND IF Apple does release a netbook of their own, it will instantly become the product to beat - regardless of its >$500.00 price tag. |
| #11 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 4/21/2009 9:20:11 AM |
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#10: Since when have Apple attacks been solely based in reality or provided all of the facts?
They will simply say that PC limits the number of "apps" you can run and Mac doesn't. The gullible public will eat it up. |
| #12 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 4/21/2009 9:31:01 AM |
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#9: Your hypothetical CPA and engineer wouldn't be using a netbook for those tasks as the hardware is not suited to that level of computing.
So what you're saying is that people will rush out to buy a netbook with Win7 Hamstrung Edition and then pay MS even more money to have the shackles loosened slightly? Great, sign me up! |
| #13 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at 4/21/2009 9:43:55 AM |
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#11, They haven't ever and that does not matter... they have a compliant and well paid media supporting them.
Latch, you're killing me.... yes, I know... I get my own point... Yes... people will but netbooks and a little while later, jusy like when they buy software and other accessories for their computers now, they'll pay a small amount online and upgrade to Pro, or home premium. Really, Microsoft's strategy here is really very good and it will result in a lot more sales. OEM's win and so do consumers - lower entry pricing, better margins and consumers get to exercise choices later on. |
| #14 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at 4/21/2009 9:56:03 AM |
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Ya'll.. take a look at this 'netbook' http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=3747
Guess what bomb MS is going to drop in May? Windows 7 Starter will be free! Zee-low.. Zip... Nada... Makes a lot of sense when you consider that online anytime upgrades will be quite popular and affordable... 199 for the netbook 60 bucks for an upgrade to home premium 259 for a Windows 7 Home Premium netbook. 199 with a subsidized contract from Verizon with baked in EVDO card on a two year contract. That's my call and I'm sticking to it. |
| #15 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at 4/21/2009 1:47:23 PM |
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Good article fairly assessing the capabilities afforded users of Windows 7 Starter, which seems destined for entry level PC's and netbooks
Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=844 by Ed Bott. It's a good read and illustrates well what starter edition users may expect. |
| #16 By 89249 (64.207.240.90) at 4/22/2009 10:00:41 AM |
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Honestly, everybody is having a knee jerk reaction to the 3 app limit. My wife, mom, older brother, sister-in-law, little brother, dad, in-laws. Every... single... one of them uses maybe 2-3 apps at the most on a home machine.
Furthermore a "netbook" is an appliance for... you guessed it... surfing the web. 3 Apps == Music + Browser + E-Mail (if you use an e-mail program). If you're "tech savy" you can RDP into a more powerful box. Are you people really comparing something that is literally supposed to be used on the couch or on the sh*tter to a full blown OS experience? This post was edited by MrHumpty on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 10:01. |
| #17 By 92283 (142.32.208.233) at 4/22/2009 11:54:11 AM |
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#16 Every smart decision made by Microsoft must be attacked dishonestly by the Latch's of the world. Keeping netbooks price low by offering the Start Edition really freaks out the OSS nutbars because they are seeing their chances of making serious inroads disappear.
Apple must be freaking out too. Do they offer an OS X netbook and lose hundreds of dollars in profits for every netbook and not Macbook purchased and hope they sell way more netbooks than they lose in macbook sales? |
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