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#1 By
143 (216.205.223.146)
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1/22/2009 3:45:12 PM
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I don't see anything in the memo about outsourced work not being touched. Just American workers only being cut.
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#2 By
8556 (12.210.39.82)
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1/22/2009 4:42:14 PM
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#1: What you refer to as "outsourced" are MS employees. MS locations are located around the globe.
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#3 By
143 (216.205.223.146)
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1/22/2009 5:05:17 PM
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Looking at the memo it seems only state side jobs are being cut.
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#4 By
16302 (64.201.211.159)
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1/23/2009 12:25:48 PM
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If I was making a 16B profit for a quarter, I would be hiring when there are so many other people that have been laid off, and invest more into R&D to come out of the recession way ahead of the competition which is laying people off. I wouldn't be cutting back, just because there is a recession unless I felt that the profits are going to turn into losses. It doesn't look like that is going to happen in the short term for MS.
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#5 By
8556 (12.208.163.37)
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1/23/2009 2:22:06 PM
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#4: You probably never did a monkey dance either.
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#6 By
23275 (172.16.10.31)
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1/23/2009 5:17:00 PM
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Yeah, this one left a bad taste in my mouth, too....
I'd rather cut my own heart out with a spoon than put a man on the street without a job.
I know many guys here own businesses and what I mean. Nothing feels better than to give a person a good job and a path forward. I can't imagine anything worse than having to let someone go.
This stunk of a play for Wall Street - who simply does not deserve a shred of consideration right now and I know Billy G is probably mightily pissed that his company is public at all.
All that said, this is a play for the street and these people will be given an opportunity to be placed within the company and provided meaningful severance pay and benefits... but still... Ptew... Ptew... Ptew... I'd rather see them tighten up all the time and let go non-performing managers regularly than do this... this way....
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#7 By
1896 (68.153.171.248)
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1/23/2009 9:10:39 PM
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#6: As you correctly stated this is the price you pay to you go public: you need to satisfy shareholders.
To be fair and honest it is also true that is nice to work when other people put in the working capital you need.
This post was edited by Fritzly on Friday, January 23, 2009 at 21:11.
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#8 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
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1/24/2009 5:50:55 AM
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Yeah, I know - I get it and how investments work and how that far larger volume drives the growth that creates the high paying jobs in the first place... it doesn't make the thought of people losing their jobs any easier to stomach. I've hired and interviewed a lot of people over the last few weeks - hiring some I really didn't need and others that have never worked in our industry. I hate seeing what is going on right now - I've seen it many times in my life and the fear and anxiety in people is the same. Soon the hunger and despair could be, too and it isn't pretty. This is what happens when governments compell free markets to behave in a particular way and when a very few very greedy people take advantage of it while buying off those minding the store. One can hope too much for too many. Many of you may know what it is like to be hungry - I mean really hungry. You work hungry; go to sleep hungry and wake up that way. It will take many years for this to sort itself out. A decade, or more - unless the clowns in Washington stop manipulating things and pulling levers they know nothing about. One rule to live by: Spend what you need to, not what you have and never what you do not have.
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#9 By
3 (80.6.17.178)
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1/24/2009 1:06:04 PM
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Least a lot are from the Zune division!
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#10 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
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1/24/2009 3:23:45 PM
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I heard. I bought a new 120 last night. I really like the software and the device and most especially the value in the 6 for the price of one sub model - three simultaneous devices and separate computers - all being able to share the entire library over one's network with Xbox and other extenders..... while being able to keep 10 titles a month in MP3 format.
If they extend the SW to other platforms and mobile phones, they'll do well.
at 4.99 a month for the subscription, it is very hard to beat. The device quality is very high and the function is amazingly well done - the twist interface is like a baby media center which among all, even Microsoft detractors, is regarded as the best media UX there is.
Still.... the market's future is on coverged devices - I dunno about touch.... cool as it is, you still have to look at the device to use it... not the hot ticket for many business people on the run like myself and many who read Awin.
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