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Rumored iTunes Music Subscription: $130 Per Year | |
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| Time: 13:47 EST/18:47 GMT | News Source: Wired | Posted By: Todd Richardson | ||
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An anonymous tipster seems to have contacted several Mac rumor publications with rumors about an unlimited music subscription within iTunes.
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| #1 By 2332 (65.96.160.215) at 8/21/2008 11:33:46 PM |
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So for $4 less per month I get access to about 25% of the songs I have access to with my Zune Pass? Great deal! Wait...
I couldn't be happier with my Zune Pass, and chances are this will eventually result in price cuts on Microsoft's side of things. Sounds good to me! Bring it on! |
| #2 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 8/22/2008 5:14:42 AM |
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I never understood this subscription concept at all; I want to own (not litterally of course) my music.
Besides it seems that Apple is late in this specific segment of the market: the issues with MS and Yahoo should have teached people the "risks" of the subscription model. |
| #3 By 2960 (70.177.180.170) at 8/22/2008 8:05:48 AM |
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Well it's about damned time!
What will determine whether I sign up or not is 100% coverage. Not of this and that and this but not that or this crap. I really loved URGE. Very close to full catalog coverage, and it was very nicely integrated into WMP. The best service (URGE) was bought by the worst service (Real) and once again it was proven that quality doesn't matter :( TL |
| #4 By 2960 (70.177.180.170) at 8/22/2008 8:07:57 AM |
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Fritz,
It's all about the experimentation. I bought more music CD's AFTER I subscribed to URGE than ever in my life. Subscription services give you a way to taste-test everything beyond a poor-quality 30 second clip. And the stuff that I didn't _quite_ want to pay for, I just streamed. TL |
| #5 By 2960 (70.177.180.170) at 8/22/2008 8:12:00 AM |
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Ok, now this is bullshit...
"funds applied through iTunes gift cards cannot be used towards subscription purchase" I bet no such limitation is printed on the card packaging, and people expect gift cards to work as cash when purchased and spent with the selling vendor. I see an FTC complaint coming out of that. TL |
| #6 By 2332 (65.96.160.215) at 8/22/2008 8:59:59 AM |
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#2 - I've never understood people who don't understand the subscription concept.
There is NOTHING preventing you from outright buying your music. Hell, go to a store and buy the CD if you really want to. But how can you not understand the appeal of being able to download or stream virtually any song whenever you want? I pay $15 a month for what ammounts to a high quality radio station from which I can choose exactly what I want to listen to and even save those songs or albums for later playback. Sounds awesome to me. The other day I was having a party and wanted a good mix of '80s music. I looked up some of my favs, and then literally started downloading anything related to those favs. In the end, I probably downloaded 50 albums worth of music. Have fun dropping at least $500 to do the same from iTunes, or more like $700 from a CD store... not to mention the hours it would take you to find it all. The ability to discover new music and not have to worry about paying a dime for something it turns out I don't really like is also a great aspect of subscription music. So can you see why subscription music is good stuff? |
| #7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/22/2008 9:49:48 AM |
| #6: I'm one of those who sees limited value for me in a subscription service. I'd much rather own the physical product and then rip it to high-quality digital (flac or 320K CBR MP3). I sample new music through Usenet and then purchase what I like in a real shop. I don't have to worry about DRM nonsense. I don't have to worry about a sudden disk crash wiping out anything acquired since the last backup. I get the CD cover art. Choice of product is infinitely greater. To me, the only benefit of a subscription service is convenience. All the other points I raised are much more important to me than convenience. |
| #8 By 54556 (68.35.10.96) at 8/22/2008 8:52:10 PM |
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"The other day I was having a party and wanted a good mix of '80s music"
Why on Earth would anyone want that? |
| #9 By 28801 (71.58.225.185) at 8/24/2008 9:10:34 AM |
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#8: Obviously because it's so rare!
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| #10 By 2332 (66.92.78.241) at 8/25/2008 11:51:07 AM |
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#7 - First, the quality thing is baloney. The high quality WMA files from the Zune Marketplace are in the range of 256k VBR files. There is virtually no difference between those files and FLAC or 320k files. If you think there are, you're really just deluding yourself like so many other audiophiles.
Second, where as you have to hunt down pirated MP3s on usenet, I just type what I want into a search box and it starts playing immediately. The DRM issue is also silly. I don't "worry" about DRM nonsense either. I've never once encountered an issue with DRM on the Zune. I use my Zune Pass at work and at home on three different computers. I can stream from all three simultaneously if I want. If my disk crashed, I can just redownload everything. (You would be forced to re-rip everything, which would take days.) Your claim that the choice of product is "infinitely greater" is pretty silly. The Zune Marketplace has over 3 million songs. Are you suggesting that Usenet has this selection? Maybe if you had an archive of usenet dating back 15 years, but you don't. Sure, you can likely find some artists or albums not on Zune, but again let me point out that using the Zune Marketplace doesn't prevent you from buying a CD. These are not mutually exclusive. I have access to everything you have access to... the big difference is that I can stream it at my whim and listen to new music whenever I want without ever worrying about cost. Oh, and btw, do you pay for usenet access? Not too many ISPs offer unlimited Usenet these days. I used to pay $15/month for my usenet access... if the only binaries you're downloading are pirated MP3s, seems to me your already paying for a subscription. :) So, in summary, your argument boils down to the fact you don't like DRM. You haven't given any real reasons why... but you just don't like it. To each his own, I guess. |
| #11 By 2332 (66.92.78.241) at 8/25/2008 11:55:23 AM |
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#8 - Seriously? Depeche Mode? Duran Duran? Gary Numan? The Cure?
Some great stuff from the 80s. Granted, there was some absolutely horrible stuff from the 80s, but the same can be said for every other decade as well. |
| #12 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/25/2008 12:39:03 PM |
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#10: virtually no difference between those files and FLAC or 320k files. If you think there are, you're really just deluding yourself like so many other audiophiles.
I suspect that you need to educate yourself on the differences between lossless audio formats like WAV, FLAC & APE versus lossy formats like AAC, MP3 & OGG. Plus, I'm not criticizing your store of choice, whatever it is. I'm saying that I've seen services offering 192K VBR MP3, and that to me is unacceptable quality. I'm a musician (4 instruments) with a very good ear and can tell the difference between low & high quality. Second, where as you have to hunt down pirated MP3s on usenet, I just type what I want into a search box and it starts playing immediately. That's great. What happens when you type in "new music I might like but have no idea of the band's name or anything at all about them' into the Search box? What do you get back then? I'll grab random tracks from random bands and listen to them. Your method is great if you know what you're looking for. The DRM issue is also silly. I don't "worry" about DRM nonsense either. I've never once encountered an issue with DRM on the Zune. I use my Zune Pass at work and at home on three You've never had a problem, therefore DRM is good and you or anyone else will never have an issue with an inherently flawed system that penalizes customers while not preventing piracy. Makes sense, I guess. I wonder if the Yahoo music store customers feel the same way. different computers. I can stream from all three simultaneously if I want. If my disk crashed, I can just redownload everything. (You would be forced to re-rip everything, which would take days.) Well, no. Not being an idiot, I would restore from my last backup that I make weekly. I'd rather not have to redownload many GBs of music, thanks. I know you're trying hard to knock me down, but no DRM is infinitely better (yes, really, it is) than *any* DRM. I'm baffled as to how you think you even have a leg to stand on arguing that one. Your claim that the choice of product is "infinitely greater" is pretty silly. The Zune Marketplace has over 3 million songs. Are you suggesting that Usenet has this selection? Easily. The only advantage for you (and it's a double-edged sword) is stability. The 3 million songs you have access to are always there. With Usenet, you never know what you're going to get. However, with many usenet providers offering 9+ months of binary retention, anything remotely popular will be there. A lot of rare stuff you will never, ever see in any online store will be there too. Oh, and btw, do you pay for usenet access? Indirectly. It's part of my IPSs offering. So, in summary, your argument boils down to the fact you don't like DRM. You haven't given any real reasons why... but you just don't like it. No, that's not the sum total of my argument at all, but if I really have to explain why DRM is bad to you then I'll stop now as it's not worth my time or trouble. |
| #13 By 2332 (66.92.78.241) at 8/27/2008 11:55:35 AM |
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#12 - As it is pretty clear that your argument really does boil down to the fact you don't like DRM, I'll refer you to an article I wrote a while back explaining why DRM is not a bad thing:
http://www.robertdowney.com/2006/08/missing-point-when-it-comes-to-drm.html As far as educating myself about the different audio formats, you presume ignorance because you disagree with my conclusions. Your presumptions are incorrect, as are your conclusions that you can tell the difference between 192k VBR and 320 FLAC or some other lossless codec for all but the most extreme of cases. There have been several double blind studies done, one of which was published in a recent issue of Skeptic Magazine (spurred by the whole hubub over those utlra-expensive speaker cabales and the James Randi Challenge) which proved that in the vast majority of cases, nobody could tell the difference between them. Differences only became noticeable at 160 and 128k. Now, I can understand why you would want to think that you are special and can tell the difference... after all, you're a "musician" and therefore have a better ear than normal human beings... but that's not what the data shows. Lastly, you ask what I do if I want to find some new music but I don't know the name or anything about them. Well, I typically find new music by using the "Related" feature in the Zune Marketplace, which shows me tons of music that is in some way related to the stuff I already listen to. Or, if I want something totally new, I can look at what other people are listening to (the social aspects of the marketplace) or go by genre. All things that, last time I checked, aren't available on Usenet. |
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