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  How to Downgrade from Vista to XP
Time: 09:26 EST/14:26 GMT | News Source: PC Magazine | Posted By: Robert Stein

If "buyer's remorse" describes regret and self-doubt after a costly purchase, then "upgrader's remorse" seems to sum up the feelings some people have after switching to Windows Vista. And why shouldn't they feel that way? Windows XP is noticeably faster than Vista on the same hardware, and it gets by with much less RAM and hard drive space. Microsoft's Service Pack 3 makes XP even faster, but the same cannot be said of Vista's Service Pack 1. And Windows Explorer crashes far more often in Vista (preceded, of course, by the notorious Green Ribbon of Death). Why, XP's staggeringly superior hardware support alone makes a convincing case for dumping Vista in favor of its predecessor.

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#1 By 75046 (189.62.107.86) at 4/28/2008 12:19:28 PM
How stupid those articles are getting...

#2 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 4/28/2008 1:37:45 PM
I don't care if they offer advice on how to go revert back to XP, but I'm so freaking tired of the endless reposting of... well, I hesitate to say it, but lies.

- No, Aero isn't a resource hog, as has been demonstrated countless times now.

- XP's Explorer.exe wasn't exactly crash-/hang-proof, either (and fwiw, I've never once experienced the "green ribbon of death," nor heard anyone else in our entire office experience, either). Now that I think about it, I can't remember killing Explorer.exe in Vista at all offhand (maybe once? I really can't recall), but I had to restart Explorer.exe sometimes on XP. I have run into issues with the IE 8 beta (seems to be rather leaky), where after awhile (about 50-60 tabs or so, or over a few days) it stops showing the window contents until uxsms is stopped, but it is beta software.

- And as for UAC and desktop icons... this has been beaten to death enough already, but one point I rarely hear is that this is even worse on an XP machine set up correctly--i.e., not running as admin, which the author of this article should know better not to do or to recommend. At least on Vista, it's possible through the UI, rather than resorting to RDPing into another machine with admin rights or runas CMD or something. Even still, the ability to put an icon on the Public Desktop which users cannot inadvertently delete is a benefit in all versions of NT. Not only that, but to the uninformed, this makes it sound that ALL desktop icons require elevation for deletion, which is complete nonsense and very misleading.

#3 By 82766 (202.154.80.82) at 4/28/2008 5:48:34 PM
@2... I suspect something has broken with the postings as I'm use to seeing far more new articles here when I first get into the office :) plus over the last few days I've had major struggles trying to re-edit my postings to the point that I've given up... this edit is to test that theory again :) hey it worked this time!

Another one of my favourite misconceptions with Vista is the "available memory". I love it how people say "Vista only shows me 3.5GB of the 4GB of RAM I've got *now* but XP showed me all of the 2GBs I had before Vista (and installed an extra 2GB)"... or that Vista uses so much memory. Anyone thats managed an Exchange and/or SQL server will totally understand how Microsoft controls RAM usage these days and gives it back to the system when its required. People thinking that "Vista is using so much memory" just because it does intelligent caching, is such last century thinking!!

My girlfriend has a year old Toshiba laptop at home with Vista Home Premium (and Office 2003!) and she has never seen an UAC prompt. It just goes to show that the only time you see a UAC prompt is when you're making "core" changes or touching files that aren't yours - which is exactly when I'd like to know about it as well.

This post was edited by MyBlueRex on Monday, April 28, 2008 at 17:51.

#4 By 2960 (72.196.195.185) at 4/29/2008 8:04:47 AM
#2,

Much like the trigger-point in my left shoulder blade, I've become 'accustomed' to UAC.

Doesn't mean I like it, and Advil doesn't help Vista :)


TL

#5 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 4/29/2008 10:15:46 AM
TL, what admin tasks are you doing that prompts UAC so often? One tip that I think is helpful, personally--create your own mmc with all the utilities you need to access, then just launch it once per session. In our case, it really isn't any different than with XP--domain administration requires a separate login, and IT user accounts are standard user accounts. With Vista, it's actually easier than with XP, because a lot of things on XP would simply fail without sufficient privileges, and there were some things that were inconvenient to work around (i.e., RDP into another machine or use runas). On Vista, it prompts for elevation.

#6 By 2960 (72.196.195.185) at 4/29/2008 2:18:39 PM
Try managing your start menu icons manually. Go ahead. I'll wait...

TL

#7 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 4/29/2008 5:01:30 PM
In our case, we don't want people accidentally deleting Start Menu icons, so this is a good thing. And it would be the same way in XP with non-admin users, actually--even worse, since XP would just give you an "Access denied" message. At least in Vista, it prompts for elevation rather than requiring runas or RDP into another computer with a domain account with sufficient privileges.

At any rate, if this is something you do frequently, why not just give yourself full control of the entire Start Menu directory?

#8 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 4/30/2008 12:05:50 PM
TL--Ed Bott has some suggestions that you might find useful:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=436&tag=nl.e539

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