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  Microsoft addresses new reports of forced Windows updates and reboots
Time: 02:42 EST/07:42 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner

Microsoft has posted a long and complex explanation to its Windows Software Update Services (WSUS) blog, explaining the latest case of why software updates are being pushed to users who believe they’ve turned automatic updating off.

The UK Register reported on October 25 that a number of admins were seeing Microsoft Desktop Search 3.01 pushed out to users via Microsoft’s WSUS enterprise patching/update system, in spite of having opted out of this “resource-hogging search app.”

Bobbie Harder, Microsoft Product Manager for WSUS, explained why some companies were seeing the updated Windows Desktop Search bits (aka, the updated package for KB917013) pushed to their users. It turns out Microsoft changed the deployment rules after the original release of Windows Desktop Search. Harder noted:

“The original update release, released February 2007 as an optional update, was only applicable on systems which had a version of Windows Desktop Search installed. The recent update Revision 105, had the applicability logic expanded to be applicable to all systems regardless if a prior version of Windows Desktop Search was installed, IF of course, approved in the WSUS Administrative UI or via Administrator-set auto-approval rules.”

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#1 By 2960 (68.100.247.204) at 10/26/2007 7:28:36 AM
NO means NO.

OFF means OFF.

All these exceptions and excuses are getting tiring.

#2 By 82766 (211.30.72.158) at 10/26/2007 9:13:27 AM
I don't see the problem here?

If I'm stupid enough to have my WSUS approval rule saying "install everything that becomes available on every PC and server I have" then thats MY problem.

If people are dumb enough to blindly install everything listed on WU including optional and recommended updates WITHOUT looking at them, then thats their problem.

This post was edited by MyBlueRex on Friday, October 26, 2007 at 09:15.

#3 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at 10/26/2007 12:53:16 PM
I see someone has resurrected the "stupid user's fault" argument.

Regardless, I fully agree with TechLarry.

#4 By 37047 (99.241.37.218) at 10/26/2007 6:58:19 PM
Apparently, if you have automatic updates turned off, and then install Windows Live OneCare, either the full retail or even just the eval version, it will turn automatic updates on for you, without even bothering to tell you. It turns on several other services as well that you may have disabled. I guess Microsoft knows better than you do about how you should configure your own computer.

#5 By 82766 (211.30.72.158) at 10/27/2007 2:18:02 AM
#3 - if *I* am stupid enough to drive the wrong way down the road, then what do you think should happen to me?

TL is correct, NO means NO and OFF is OFF... BUT if you have "apply ALL WSUS provided updates equaling ON" then of course you're going to get the update!

What part of that don't you get???? REMEMBER "apply ALL updates" is NOT WSUS' default configuration. The admin has to turn this on themselves, hence it is their own choice to get this update.

So in this case, NO is NO and OFF was OFF... except the various admins/users around the world, changed the default configuration and made it ON is ON.

Have you ever managed a WSUS controlled site??

#6 By 82766 (211.30.72.158) at 10/27/2007 2:25:02 AM
#4 - INCORRECT. When you install OneCare, you are given the choice as turning on automatic updates. Please KNOW the software before providing incorrect and factually wrong information.

I really don't understand why many people RIP apart Microsoft for something thats NOT their fault?? In these two particular cases, the user is given control and choice as to what THEY want to do. Its NOT Microsofts fault at all.

Sure there are a number of things I don't like about Microsoft products but like every other company in the world, they are not perfect and neither are you or I.

I've been a long time AS400, UNix, Linux, Apple and Microsoft administrator for far too many years to remember and I just annoys the crap out of me that people make such generalized statements without knowing the products they're talking about. It really frustrates me and one part of me feels extremely sorry for those types of people.

Good luck!

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