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| Time: 00:26 EST/05:26 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Sales of boxed copies of Windows Vista continue to significantly trail those of Windows XP during its early days, according to a soon-to-be-released report. Standalone unit sales of Vista at U.S. retail stores were down 59.7 percent compared with Windows XP, during each product's first six months on store shelves, according to NPD Group. In terms of revenue, sales are also down, but the drop has been less steep, at 41.5 percent. The findings largely mirror the sales pattern NPD saw for Vista during its first week on the market in January. | ||
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| #1 By 1401 (216.145.133.6) at 9/12/2007 7:08:42 AM |
| Vista just plain blows. It's very disappointing. Most of my customers ordering new computers will specify XP, not Vista. I've had to wipe Vista off numerous new computers and install XP over it. I use it on my office pc just because I'm trying to learn it so I can help my customers who do have it. But I am significantly less productive on Vista than I am on XP... |
| #2 By 37 (76.210.78.134) at 9/12/2007 8:38:16 AM |
| Vista blows big time. It could have been so much more. Here is to hoping Windows 7 is all new and improved! |
| #3 By 25030 (12.159.165.115) at 9/12/2007 10:17:33 AM |
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The market has changed significantly since XP was released. It is becoming more and more rare for individuals (or businesses) to purchased boxed software. Individuals other than power users get their OS with their computer. Can you imagine your mother attempting to do an OS upgrade? Businesses on the other hand have migrated to various volume and open licensing programs. It shouldn't surprise anyone that sales of retail boxes are down vs. XP.
As for Vista itself, I can't think of a single thing that I miss about XP, other than being able to change the text of the "start" button. Vista is superior in virtually every way, at least on the hardware I've installed it on. Still, we won't be rolling it out at my company for probably another year, though it has nothing to do with waiting for SP1 or anything of that nature, it's purely driven by old, crappy banking software that gives even XP fits when running in a limited user environment. Once the vendors update their software, or we choose some new vendors, we will move to Vista in short order. |
| #4 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 9/12/2007 10:47:40 AM |
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#1, I just don't buy that you're less productive on Vista - why specifically?
I don't get that one. |
| #5 By 1401 (65.255.137.29) at 9/12/2007 10:58:44 AM |
| Maybe if I find some time soon - I'll write up a thing on it ketchum... |
| #6 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 9/12/2007 11:00:48 AM |
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In fairness, though, a lot of those folks upgrading to XP were coming from 98. There's a lot more incentive to go from poor to great than from great to even better. And, this is about retail Vista sales.
I'd be curious to know how Vista is doing relative to W2k. It's not really a great comparison as W2k was more or less a business-oriented release, but XP benefitted from the ecosystem (apps and drivers) having time to catch up--in other words, an x.1 release rather than an x.0 release. There seems to be a vicious cycle here, though--the press want desperately to have an interesting story, and David vs. Goliath is always a sure-fire hit. The endless pitting of Apple vs. Microsoft fits the bill, and the more they can paint Vista as ME v2, the better it serves their agenda. The people reading the stories soak it up and spit it back out not even having used the product (Latch, Prof. Gutmann, etc.), and on the cycle goes, reinforcing the idea. At this point, it seems like Vista's lot has been cast, and it may be difficult to change (though it certainly did with XP... and nearly every other Windows release--go look at the press coverage at the time). When people come up to me and ask "is it a good time to buy a new Vista machine? Is it stable now?" I know they've been fed a load of crap. Yeah, your old anti-virus software isn't going to work, but you had to do the same thing when you upgraded from 98 to XP... or did everyone forget about that? The way some articles read, it makes it sound like Microsoft is colluding with anti-virus vendors... of course, that's when they aren't reporting that Microsoft is trying to put all the anti-virus vendors out of business. Having lived through the thick of several Windows deployments, I just don't understand all the pernicious negativity. There's plenty to like about Vista, though I wouldn't characterize it as an upgrade of the same magnitude as going from 98 to W2k/XP (I've always been in the NT camp). There were teething issues... just as with every other Windows release. But going to an XP machine now feels like taking a step back, even though XP is a great OS. And for those that also lived through OS X's birth and deployed it... remember how smoothly that went??? Bottom line, don't label an OS as a failure until it has had some time to mature. |
| #7 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 9/12/2007 7:45:56 PM |
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Hey guys XP is great and Vista is great. Run XP on an old machine and Vista on a new one. What's the prob.
I guess the only caveat is gaming. If I were to build a gaming computer today I'd probably dual boot Vista and XP (or possibly XP and some Linux flavor). If I were getting a PC for mom - no question a MacBook. |
| #8 By 1401 (216.145.133.6) at 9/12/2007 8:43:53 PM |
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What amazes me is - you ask a Vista fan what they like about the new OS - and at the top of the list is Start Menu Search. BFD!!! I use Start Menu Search on my Vista machine. But I think, in XP, I go to Start>Run and type gpedit.msc (or services.msc, etc...) and the second time and there after itp pops up on the list or is there from the last time. In Vista Start Menu Search, it doesn't remember and I have to type the whole thing. So, in that regard, XP is better.
The thing is, in Vista, every so called feature, all I can say is 'So what'? There is nothing so much better than XP that actually makes me say 'Wow!' There are lots of things that make me curse at my PC all day long... |
| #9 By 7754 (75.72.156.204) at 9/12/2007 10:49:06 PM |
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#8, just pin it to your Start menu.
Actually, I don't use the Start Menu search function often either (maybe out of habit, though), so I know what you're saying. Still, I think there's plenty to like about Vista, and I find little-discussed things that I really appreciate all the time... for instance, an issue came up the other day where someone deleted something out of their user profile. The Previous Versions feature saved them... but the best part about it was that it was accessible remotely via the C$ share. Instead of it requiring a few minutes for someone to walk over to the user's desk, the file was remotely copied back in place immediately. I also really like the "copy as path" function when creating scripts. One thing I really don't get, though, is why the QAT settings don't roam in Office 2007 (not a Vista issue, I realize). That one just baffles me... I can't see any good reason for it. We ended up creating a script to get them to roam. |
| #10 By 48398 (130.13.158.96) at 9/13/2007 8:15:57 AM |
| #8, you are comparing two different features. You can put run in the Vista start menu and it works just like XP. |
| #11 By 1401 (207.192.228.176) at 9/13/2007 9:04:14 AM |
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#10 - yes I understand that - but my point is, that's the best feature anyone can point to as the benefits of running Vista? That's a pretty weak arguement in my opinion. I was just illustrating how it can be done in XP just as easily.
Man, I was pretty drunk last night when I wrote that - had to reread it this morning... |
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