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  Microsoft Ups Commitment to Bridge Gaps Between Open Source and Ecma Office Open XML
Time: 11:33 EST/16:33 GMT | News Source: Microsoft | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner

Microsoft believes that the IT industry has evolved to the point where a long-term foundation must be put into place to drive greater collaboration across open source and proprietary software companies that will ultimately yield increased benefits for all customers.

As part of this ongoing effort to promote and facilitate interoperability and innovation, the company continues to expand the Open XML- Open Document Format (ODF) Translator project. The project, developed with partners, seeks to create tools to build a technical bridge between Ecma Office Open XML Formats and ODF. Recently, Microsoft announced that Turbolinux, a major distributor of Linux software suits in Asia, will be joining the project.

It is both companies’ hope that this new collaboration will help in the creation of localized versions of the translators for Asian language customers. To learn a bit more about the progress being made by the Open XML-ODF Translator project and the value that Turbolinux will provide as a member of the Sourceforge project community, PressPass spoke with Jean Paoli, co-creator of the XML 1.0 standard and Microsoft’s general manager for interoperability and XML Architecture, and Mio Matsuda, manager, International Business Division, Turbolinux, Inc.

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#1 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/10/2007 2:25:35 PM
Sure they do. Microsoft's middle name is "we love to interoperate with open source!"

http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13391&Itemid=1054

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/07/formula-for-failure.html

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#2 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 7/10/2007 3:03:13 PM
could you do a tiny bit more than post the top 3 links you found at google, in your 4-seconds of research? at least post some summary or a quote from the link... before asking me to hit something with malaysia in it.

latch? "lazy" is more like it.

#3 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/10/2007 3:18:14 PM
#3: I should post a summary of all three links so that you don't have to move your index finger? And who is being lazy again?? However, I can understand your dilemma; I wouldn't want to surf unknown foreign sites with IE either ;)

#4 By 32132 (66.183.203.110) at 7/10/2007 8:23:41 PM
#2 I'll summarize.

The world is a better place without the flawed, Sun owned ODF being crammed down everyones throat as if it was the word of god itself.

This post was edited by NotParker on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 at 21:06.

#5 By 12071 (202.43.138.32) at 7/11/2007 5:53:10 AM
#2 "latch? "lazy" is more like it."
That's ironical (Here's a definition for the lazy: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ironical) - complaining about someone else being lazy... yet being too lazy yourself to click on a link. Perhaps you're using one of those browsers without tabs so clicking on unknown links is just too much trouble - who am I to judge.

I'll help you out - the stories talk about OOXML and well it's "quality"...

"First, let's take the trigonometric functions, SIN (Part 4, Section 3.17.7.287), COS (Part 4, Section 3.17.7.50) and TAN (Part 4, Section 3.17.7.313). Hard to mess these up right? Well, what if you fail to state whether their arguments are angle expressed as radians or degrees? Whoops. ASIN (Part 4, Section 3.17.7.12), ACOS (Part 4, Section 3.17.7.4), ATAN (Part 4, Section 3.17.7.14), and ATAN2 (Part 4, Section 3.17.7.15). It is hard to have interoperable versions of these functions if the units are not specified. What kind of review in Ecma would miss something so simple?" ... and it goes on and on!

I guess all those stories about Ecma being a giant rubber stamp for Microsoft are true after all! And given how much Parkkker defends them I think we can all agree that it's definietely true!

"So what is ODF doing about formulas? We're continuing to work on them. Rather than rush, we're doing careful, methodical work. We're documenting the functions in great detail. Where we have the choice between the common naive formula for a function and one that is numerically stable, we're documenting the stable function."

Wow, imagine that... taking your time to ensure that you get things as correct as possible rather than rushing out a 6000 page document that's close to worthless.

#6 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/11/2007 11:57:16 AM
The fact that the MSXML spec is massive and full of representations known only to Microsoft guarantees that nobody will implement it other than MS and its paid minions. Does that sound like a world standard to you? MSXML is vague and, it turns out, very incorrect.

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