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  EU cautioned on any Microsoft break-up
Time: 11:40 EST/16:40 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Andre Da Costa

A former U.S. justice official who tried to break up Microsoft seven years ago has urged the European Commission to tread cautiously if it tries to do the same. European Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes, frustrated by what she sees as Microsoft's defiance of the law, recently raised the question of whether the U.S. software giant should be broken up.

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#1 By 32132 (142.32.208.234) at 5/8/2007 12:05:00 PM
"The Competition Directorate single-handedly blocked the biggest merger in history between General Electric and Honeywell, prompting GE's legendary boss Jack Welch to ask: "Why the Hell was I never told this could happen?"

It has its own "Swat teams" that can launch dawn raids without a search warrant and seize company archives. It fined Microsoft $613m for anti-trust violations, more or less making up the law as it went along."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2004/10/02/cceu02.xml

#2 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 5/8/2007 12:21:57 PM
#1, Are we surprised at all?

I mean, in the EU the THK can kick in your door for operating an illicit microwave oven - just to confirm that the occupant is paying his or her 2 Euro/Month microwave oven tax and God help anyone that has an illicit TV set - they fire up the torture rooms over stuff like that - "Rack em!"

Community watches alert neighbors to the arrival of the tech vans - slowly circling the streets of citizens' homes, as phones ring and IM clients ding and people rush to unplug and hide their 9" black and white sets. <I once helped a man in France program a frequency scanner - I thought the guy was going to piss himself - worrying about the govt. locking him up - all for being a novice radio enthusiast!>

"Give us your server technology and show us how to use it or we'll break you up."

And the devils have the nerve to shake their fingers at America for placing murderous terrorists in a prison?

...and of course there will be people here all too willing to brand me a racist for offering that government control and excessive taxes are bad for people... please check your mailbox for the invitation to lecture at P.H.K. University.

Try any of this in my home state and I swear, by God, you'll see just how fast people pass legislation supporting recall votes.

#3 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 5/8/2007 3:25:51 PM
#1 "Secret Prisons", 'Special Courts", people detained for years without any formal accusation etc. are peculiar to this Country where we live. Such aberrations do not exist in Europe.
Btw try to read "The Times" and watch BBC if you are looking for objective news.
#2 "I mean, in the EU the THK can kick in your door for operating an illicit microwave oven - just to confirm that the occupant is paying his or her 2 Euro/Month microwave oven tax".
You should spend a couple of weeks in Europe, it would be a nice "reality check"; I have two microwave ovens in my apartment in Rome Italy and I never paid any tax for it.
I should also add that I did not pay to attend the University there and when my daughter got sick in Rome my wife brought her in the hospital and the first thing they asked her was about any allergies or other know intollerances not the credit card number; they visited her, gave her all the prescriptions she needed for the two weeks treatment and dismissed her without paying one cent. They did not even asked if they were European citizens in spite of the fact that my wife did not speak Italian, only English.


This post was edited by Fritzly on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 at 15:28.

#4 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 5/8/2007 3:52:00 PM
#3, I lived there for nearly 15 years - and yes, I've dodged plenty a THK van in my day.

#5 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 5/8/2007 4:04:07 PM
Interesting similarity: living abroad resemble "Vista experience": a paradise for someone and a nightmare for someone else.

#6 By 32132 (66.183.202.89) at 5/8/2007 9:22:08 PM
#3 Of course there are no special courts in Britain ...

Oh wait. 3+ years without trial. (Not that I'm saying they didn't deserve it.)

By the way, can you name anyone in the U.S.A. held for that long without trial?

"Since 11 September, 17 foreign nationals have been detained without trial.

They were held at Belmarsh and Woodhill high security prisons, Broadmoor Hospital, or house arrest."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4101751.stm

Sometimes, during wars, prisoners are held for a long time. Like in WWII. Soldiers capture in September 1939 were held "without trial" until 1945.

#7 By 9589 (75.183.115.170) at 5/10/2007 12:11:54 AM
Let's not forget a couple of small items. The EU isn't a country. It has no constitution. It's only reason for existing is to attempt to match the market and political power of the United States and Japan.

Here in the US, if a company appeals a judgement against it, as Microsoft has in this case, the sentence is held in abeyance while the appeal runs its course. Not in the non country known as the EU. There, Microsoft is tried, sentenced and convicted to the tune of nearly a billion dollars. Getting to the appeal has dragged out for years. Meanwhile, the EU keeps heaping on more and more charges. Everytime Microsoft comes out with a new product they go after them.

Nevertheless, the consortium known as Air Bus has been publicly funded by England and France for decades. Everytime it gets ahead, Boeing kicks it up a notch and surpasses Air Bus as they have done recently. Expect England and France to bail Air Bus out again with public money and so it goes. Yet, not a word from the EU on Air Bus' competitiveness. The upshot is there are now only two world wide makers of commercial jet aircraft. The dozens of companies that used to make up the industry found they were competing with a company and two countries. They did the prudient thing and exited the industry.


#8 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 5/10/2007 11:42:34 AM
Yeah, and the EU passes guidance - which the member nations so often use to justify even more restrictive national laws - take the U.K.'s television tax - where they collect it, or attempt to, from people who do not even own a TV set! All to support the BBC - which has its own agenda and at a minimum, does not always take a position that represents all the people funding it via their taxes. The separate nations often push such laws down the throats of people - all while hiding behind the EU. Tyranny has many friends, it would seem.

Again, try that crap in the U.S. and both the tea and the nobles get tossed overboard.

#9 By 54556 (67.131.75.3) at 5/10/2007 4:16:41 PM
"U.K.'s television tax - where they collect it, or attempt to, from people who do not even own a TV set!"

What actually happens is we annually receive a letter from the TVLA, and we send back a reply (verification) that we no not own or use a TV, and then we dont hear from them for another year.

Enjoy paying all of your taxes yanks: Federal income, State income, municipality property, sales, lodging, gross receipts, estate, cigaretta, gasoline, telephone, .....................................

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