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Microsoft limits use of new Vista on a Mac | |
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| Time: 00:15 EST/05:15 GMT | News Source: Mercury News | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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After years of delays and billions of dollars in development and marketing efforts, it would seem that Microsoft would want anyone who possibly can to buy its new Windows Vista operating system. Yet Microsoft is making it hard for Macintosh owners and other potentially influential customers to adopt the software. Microsoft says the blockade is necessary for security reasons. The situation involves a technology known as virtualization. Essentially, it lets one computer mimic multiple machines, even ones with different operating systems. It does this by running multiple applications at the same time, but in separate realms of the computer. | ||
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| #1 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 2/26/2007 2:05:47 AM |
| Duplicate article. Kind of dumb too. |
| #2 By 44902 (213.182.214.94) at 2/26/2007 2:16:54 AM |
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Microsoft says the blockade is necessary for security reasons.
Quite stupid excuse... MS going mad about security, absolutely sick people... |
| #3 By 47203 (60.224.170.122) at 2/26/2007 6:08:45 AM |
| #2 - Damned if you do, damned if you don't. |
| #4 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 2/26/2007 9:32:17 AM |
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This article is horrible on a lot of levels. First, this isn't a Mac-specific problem--it applies no matter what OS or hardware is used on the host (it does talk briefly about that in the article, but how 'bout that headline, eh?). The restrictions are in place for ALL users, for better or worse.
But if we're going to talk Mac, maybe we should talk about virtualizing OS X. Can I legally run OS X in a VM on my PC? No. Can I run it legally at all on my non-Apple machine, for that matter? No. |
| #5 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 2/26/2007 12:29:32 PM |
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i long for the day when the % of apple articles is equal to their market share in the marketplace (<5%). This post was edited by mooresa56 on Monday, February 26, 2007 at 12:30. |
| #6 By 7390 (24.188.166.243) at 2/26/2007 1:09:33 PM |
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not as long as byron is at home wrapped in his Apple blanket while sipping hot cocoa from the Ipod mug that he waited 10 hours online for. All the while thinking to himself...how can I get an Imac teddy bear to complete my life
yes yes, this post will be erased in 5 4 3 |
| #7 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 2/26/2007 2:01:35 PM |
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Some days are harder than others...
There good and valid reasons for limiting the initial support for virtualization in Windows Vista, or any operating system. Please read, http://www.eecs.umich.edu/virtual/papers/king06.pdf which presents discussion and research work opposite malware in virtual systems. From there, please consider getting into the hardware side of it - Intel and AMD both offer a lot of materials relevant to the subject. As virtualization [in many forms] grows [heterogeneous multi-core processors come to mind as only one example], increasingly complex types of attacks will be mounted against them - and effectively, so. The issues here aren't about limiting MAC user access to a less costly version of Vista - they are about very important considerations regarding how secure the many different variations of affected hardware architectures - each has their own... AMD, Intel, IBM, etc... and different methods to secure this will apply. Opposite primary use cases - as there are with business customers and enthusiasts, consumer oriented operating systems are an inappropriate entry point to begin to understand how to secure virtualized systems. I think were progress is made - e.g., with Vista Ultimate editions opposite enthusiasts, there is enough support for virtualization and amongst a community of users best suited to secure such environments. It seems once again, our press and many MAC users, are unaware of, or don't care to consider the facts. Finally, virtualization is not new at all - it used to be dang near necessary - as small OSes, opposite small, special purpose processors, handled assigned tasks - masters managed these tasks and aggregated results. This was obviated by the evolution of very powerful processors [from our perspective; however, elsewhere, as in Govt. virtualization still rules]. I suspect we'll see this all reverse - as many, purpose built cores on the same CPU using virtualized operating systems running from the main OS [among Vista's best promises for the future] all work together to support some amazing experiences - speech enabled unified messaging... looks like it will be first up [W2K7, E2K7 w/SP1, SP1 and Kernel updates for Vista] - and physics in gaming and entertainment, or physics in CAD design, etc... spatial modeling.... "Man... one's imagination could go nuts!" "Ya'll see why the MAC/Apple scares me so much? - companies like that want us to stop thinking" "They want us to believe the good guys are always bad and it is all as simple as greed driven marketing... - it isn't" Microsoft and is partners in CS research are doing the right thing here. |
| #8 By 2960 (24.254.95.224) at 2/26/2007 2:48:32 PM |
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Guys, it's all much simpler than all this.
It's about selling multiple copies of vista. Period. Nothing wrong with that. It's their business. Uses either will or won't buy. Anything else is bullshit. TL |
| #9 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 2/26/2007 3:09:11 PM |
| TL--that would make sense if it weren't for that fact that there is NO restriction on running any version of Vista in Boot Camp, or in any other non-virtualization scenario (including dual-boot of two different Vista installs on a single PC, if for some reason you wanted to do that). |
| #10 By 2960 (24.254.95.224) at 2/26/2007 4:59:43 PM |
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Blu, that's just a glitch that got by them, like the clean-install from upgrade disc glitch :)
They can't shovel the crap back into the horse on that one. TL |
| #11 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 2/26/2007 6:06:03 PM |
| I don't see how it's a glitch. You pay for a license when it's virtualized, and you pay when it's not. Vista Home isn't "legal" in the virtualized world, regardless of platform. If anything, that may discourage some sales, since many won't be willing to shell out for Ultimate--especially when you don't get full UI in a virtualized environment anyhow. |
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