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Paul Thurrott Confirms New Xbox 360 Coming Late 2007 | |
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| Time: 13:35 EST/18:35 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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In a new edition of "Windows Weekly", Paul Thurrott says that a new version of the Xbox 360 will be coming in late 2007 and that only the new 360 will have the ability to use IPTV. In addition to a new Xbox, Paul states a larger hardrive is in the works. No real surprise to most people about a new 360 coming, but I can't see IPTV only working on new 360's as they wouldn't want to cut out the 15/20 million users who will have a 360 by the end of the year. | ||
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| #1 By 3151 (208.59.168.209) at 1/13/2007 2:48:36 PM |
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I knew it. I had my brother buy me a 360 after the "experiment" statement/no announcement at CES. Go figure.
Not that I was going to complain - I wasn't going to wait another year to get one. |
| #2 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 1/13/2007 3:23:02 PM |
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Not cool, Paul. I think that it is a mistake for manufacturers to reward pundits who do not actually attend shows like the CES - information releases should be restricted to those that gut it out and earn access to it by attending.
The guys at DL.TV did a great job and offered a ton of value and fun. Their "from CES" shows were a nice diversion and a heck of a lot of fun to watch. It's great to see all the people from ZDTV/TechTV out there doing such innovative things and Jim Louderback is a hoot opposite Patrick Norton and Robert Heron is just plain smart as heck - really thorough. |
| #3 By 3746 (71.19.41.232) at 1/13/2007 5:25:10 PM |
| Why would only the new Xbox be able to do IPTV? Technically they can't add any new features. All games have to be able to work with both systems. The new hardware is just a shrink of the CPU die and possibly an HDMI port along with other minor changes. They do this to reduce manufacturing costs not to bring out a "new" console. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to leave those 10-20 million (by the end of 2007) owners not being able to access a new feature. |
| #4 By 12071 (203.217.94.252) at 1/13/2007 7:26:57 PM |
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#2 "information releases should be restricted to those that gut it out and earn access to it by attending. "
You mean pay for it? Wow... I had some relatively low opinions of you before but you've just taken it to a whole new low - Congratulations! Yes, let's charge for all information, only let the ones who can afford to pay for it know about it! I think we should start with libraries - perhaps a time charge so that you can't copy everything down in a single sitting! I just really hope that you're not actually in charge of anything even remotely important because that's going to be a huge loss to everyone. Information should be free to all, not just those that can afford it! I now understand why people like yourself and Parkker are so against projects like OLPC - it upsets you to know that some kids might get some information for free! #3 Exactly it cannot have any NEW features otherwise developers will no longer be able to target the XBOX as a single platform - they would have to treat it more like a pc where you turn features on and off based on the capabilities of the system. So it would be an update to make it smaller and cheaper - perhaps with hd-dvd capability built in for an additional cost. |
| #5 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 1/13/2007 9:24:40 PM |
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#4, I am speaking to advanced, unreleased information - or otherwise secret information and cerrtainly not information in general. My point is, many pundits do not like stomping around the trade shows - particularly as they get older. Cool, I can understand that. That said, there are guys that are enduring the slog through the venues and they should be rewarded for that.
Now, some may assert, and they have a valid position, that they can me even more effective by not attending - having more time to focus on material details, etc... That may be valid, but I think a combination of field reporters on the scene, filing stories, is the most effective combination. Finally, many pundits are paid to attend such shows - at the invitation of companies like Microsoft. Paul would certainly fall into that category. As regards kids and information - man, if you only knew me at all - I have elevated a great number of young people well above any station I will ever know. That in fact, is a continuous goal - the way I earn the privilege it is to lead them by creating opportunities for them very early on and then insulating them from the consequences of their inevitable mistakes while they are young. That involves providing them access to information that very few young people are ever provided early in their careers. Paying one's dues is a lot different than paying out cash - and that has value, too. Self-respect is largely based upon it. By the way, creating and sustaining opportunities for the people I work with is the most important thing I do - perhaps the most important thing any person might do. |
| #6 By 8556 (12.210.39.82) at 1/13/2007 10:44:33 PM |
| chris: reporters attend CES for free, have access to all press releases and have a nice reporter area to use that is off limits to others. They do not pay to attend CES. |
| #7 By 12071 (203.217.94.252) at 1/14/2007 4:28:08 AM |
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#5 "That said, there are guys that are enduring the slog through the venues and they should be rewarded for that."
They are rewarded - for the price of admission they have availability to live presentations, hands on demonstrations and most importantly key persons with whom they can exchange business cards, discuss potential future projects, build new relationships and view all the upcoming goods and services under one roof rather than having to search multiple web sites. You want more? Demand more, otherwise move aside and let the information be free for all, not just the elite few who have paid for it. #6 Reporters may get in for free, but everyone else does not. For someone like myself, or even a site such as ActiveWin, it's a GOOD thing that we can find out about this sort of information because unlike lketchum would like you to believe, it's not "secret" information. There have been rumors circulating for quite a while now. This, as the title of this story states, is just confirmation of those rumors. Not everyone can or event wants to attend CES and other similar trade shows nor should they have to just to get the information about upcoming projects/releases/etc. What I take issue with is someone like lketchum standing on his soap box and complaining not about the release of information but the release of information for free. Unlike many would have you believe CES and similar shows aren't completely about showcasing upcoming goods and services - they're just as important in providing a place where you can build on existing or create new business relationships. When I attend such shows it is almost always about building relationships not the products they are showcasing (although it's certainly nice to be able to have a hand's on demo in many cases) but I would never say to someone else that they're not allowed to know what's going on inside if they haven't paid for the entry! Ask yourself this - why didn't lketchum have a similar response when ActiveWin covered the iPhone release from Apple or even the story about IE8 being in the works (although that was more typical marketing from Microsoft)? Surely that too is information that shouldn't have been made available to those not attending CES - what is it that makes THIS information special? |
| #8 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 1/14/2007 7:56:45 AM |
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#7, It isn't about Activewin - which by the way, WAS AT CES.
My point was not about what Activewin covers or does not cover. [I'm going to start posting in really little bits and repeat myself often]. My point used one specific example - Paul Thurott. He received a ton of information from Microsoft, but did not attend. Okay fine. He's earned a pass this year, but I hope it is not a trend that continues. In my opinion, he's paid some dues, but not enough - when he's been in this industry another 20 years, then yeah, maybe... but till then, he needs to attend. He's still way too young not to have enough energy to hump the halls of a CES. Chris, no one is trying to restrict access to any information. What Paul could have done, is send a young person he may work with that would love to roam all over a CES and then file reports and images back to Paul. Now that'd be a cool way to handle things like this and the field "agent" if you will, would have a great experience. |
| #9 By 2539 (24.36.244.222) at 1/14/2007 8:08:00 AM |
| #3, I think you have it right.. there is no reason why the new revision of the 360 wouldn't be able to handle IPTV.. unless it is related to one of the new ports (does IPTV require HDMI for DRM or anything like that?). |
| #10 By 32158 (130.13.156.232) at 1/14/2007 3:41:06 PM |
| I don't listen to anything Paul says anyway. As far as I'm concerned he's no greater than a tech working for the Geek Squad. lketchum's posts have far more value to me than anything that has ever spewed from Paul's big mouth. |
| #11 By 54556 (71.210.206.252) at 1/15/2007 7:41:32 AM |
| who cares? |
| #12 By 37047 (74.101.157.125) at 1/15/2007 11:09:41 AM |
| lketchum: I guess by stating that only those media folks who attend CES and similar shows should be allowed to disseminate information, you must therefore feel that the inverse is also true, that the technology companies should only be allowed to disseminate information at these trade shows, and only to those who attend. Sounds rather dictatorial to me. I guess every media outlet and every company should be forced to check with you before determining how, and to whom, they can give marketing information to. Heil Ketchum! |
| #13 By 37047 (74.101.157.125) at 1/15/2007 11:12:35 AM |
| Also, I guess if you don't attend CES and other trade shows, you should also be forced to stop reporting on any technology related events until after the trade shows are over. |
| #14 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 1/15/2007 12:51:40 PM |
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#12, 13 Huh? I think you know I meant no such thing.
To be clearer - I don't think it is a good idea to see a trend where people reporting, based in part of privileged information to not actually attend the shows where such information would be released. That was and remains my opinion. I say this, for two reasons - there is benefit to be gained from actually attending and also, those that do attend and expend that energy should be rewarded. |
| #15 By 72369 (130.13.156.232) at 1/15/2007 10:27:28 PM |
| #11 you forced my hand. |
| #16 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 1/16/2007 12:01:01 PM |
| Well, if Paul Thurrott got the information, and he was not at CES, then either he was reporting second hand info that someone else who WAS at CES already reported, or the information was distributed to a wider distribution scope than just those at CES, in which case, he should be allowed to report on it, if MS told him about directly. Either way, I do not see a problem. |
| #17 By 7390 (69.113.155.216) at 1/16/2007 12:06:58 PM |
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As a current Xbox 360 owner I would feel betrayed that a new version was released that has new functionality that I don't have
the 15-20 million of us are being punished for being early adopters |
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