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  Dell Serves Up Blu-ray Notebook
Time: 11:37 EST/16:37 GMT | News Source: CRN | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner

Dell made good on its commitment to integrate Blu-ray optical drives into its PC products.

The Round Rock, Texas-based computer hardware giant said Monday it's shipping a consumer notebook with Blu-ray capability. The Dell XPS M1710 notebook will have Blu-ray drives as an option, the company said.

Blu-ray, which is also supported by Dell technology partner Sony, is compatible with high-definition video and can provide as much as 50 Gbytes of storage on one disc. Dell is a member of the Blu-ray Disc Association and has been among the largest vendors championing the new media technology in the PC space.

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#1 By 7390 (24.188.166.243) at 12/11/2006 1:27:13 PM
WTF? I thought that Microsoft had annexed Dell?

heads will rolls for this..why are they choosing sides in this war?

#2 By 3 (62.253.128.14) at 12/11/2006 2:06:41 PM
Well they had to go with one or the other and so far Blu-Ray are the only ones that have laptop/desktop drives out.

#3 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 12/11/2006 2:32:20 PM
I wouldn't mid a 50GB disc for backups.

The trouble is the cost. 80GB sata drives are now under 50$, 70GB REV drives are just over 50$ in a 4 pack, and 50GB BD-RE's are around 50$.

160GB SATA drives are 60$. I guess that would be cheapest.



This post was edited by NotParker on Monday, December 11, 2006 at 14:33.

#4 By 23275 (172.16.10.31) at 12/11/2006 3:35:20 PM
#2, Toshiba makes some laptops that have an HD DVD drive built in.

They were first in the market - just after they released their STB HD players this past spring.
The, Qosmio line, for example, ships with an available HD DVD player.
See, http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?coid=-30600&seg=HHO

#3, the problem with BD for backups is that while the upper limit for BD is high,
in practice it isn't being achieved, and how BD is burned makes it much more
likely to be damaged - so as a BU solution, it may not be as viable as many hope.
BD is burned much closer to the surface of the media - much like an open faced
sandwich, [as shared on Major Nelson's podcast ref the subject] as opposed to one with two slices of bread [e.g., HD DVD], which would be more stable. Added to that is the terribly long time it takes to burn one - so BD may not be practical as a BU solution other than as rarer archive creation. If you recall when BD was first discussed, the thought was to use a cartridge based media solution - because of how BD is burned.

This post was edited by lketchum on Monday, December 11, 2006 at 18:02.

#5 By 3 (62.253.128.14) at 12/11/2006 3:43:56 PM
#4 - my bad, over here in the UK the Sony laptops were the first to have any HD capable drive in them.

#6 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 12/11/2006 4:18:59 PM
IKetchum, stop with the sandwich analogies already - I am stuck at work and its near dinner time where I am! :-)

#7 By 37 (68.190.114.234) at 12/11/2006 4:19:20 PM
Of note, the Blu-Ray drives are unable to play Blu-Ray movies.

#8 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 12/11/2006 4:32:24 PM
Blu-Ray is an abomination. Sony just wants to control the media and the drive as well. Witness Betamax, minidisk, UMD... This too shall fail. Bring on the HD-DVD!

#9 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 12/11/2006 4:44:53 PM
#6, I hear ya - starv'in marv'in here myself!

#7,8... so very true... there is a really good audio cast on Major Nelson's that was very revealing and confirmed what we have been seeing in our own builds and tests. It was interesting, for example, to learn that MS spent over a year supporting both formats, but left BD because of so many problems and just how hard it would be to support BD over time - not to mention that so far, all BD titles wee being encoded in a ten year old format - MPEG2 - vice the VC-1, that both BD and HD DVD support out of the box. Of note is how inefficient compression is on DB - so despite stated higher volume levels over all, it actually works out to be less "effective" storage - since the format is less efficient.
You can listen to the Pod cast I've mentioned here,
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/07/16/Show-183-The-one-about-HD-DVD.aspx

#10 By 37 (68.190.114.234) at 12/11/2006 6:00:03 PM
Another advantage of HD-DVD is that you can play an HD-DVD on any existing DVD player. HD-DVD format allows DVD players to read the format. They just have the DVD version on the disc as well as the HD-DVD version. You cannot put Blu-Ray discs in DVD players.

#11 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 12/11/2006 6:11:42 PM
#10, Good point - some HD DVD titles are released as dual format SD DVD and HD DVD - one on each side. The newly released Superman Returns film is an example of such a title.

Sadly, however, most HD and BD high def titles so far, have been films that did less well in theaters and as DVD home video - leaving both early HD DVD and BD adopters fewer choices and driving sales of HD/BD titles that many would not have purchased otherwise.

Another strengh for HD DVD is that the current and soon to be released gen. II HD DVD players from Toshiba are perhaps the best up-converting SD to HD players available. Comparing the HD A1 and XA1 to any upconverting SD DVD player from Samsung, Toshiba and Sony has revealed that the HD A1/XA1 provide an amazing up-conversion ability. It gave new life to our personal collections and added to the value.

For Xbox 360 owners, please note that some of our guys have this and it's a great player and value - producing great HD DVD playback; however, it does not up-convert any SD DVD titles - so hang onto your existing up-converting players.

#12 By 3 (62.253.128.14) at 12/12/2006 12:57:11 AM
#7 - that was the case a few months back, but the beta power dvd player is due out any day now, it was certainly rushed out too early without proper software.

#11 - exactly, the strength of the HD-DVD format right now is dual formatting, its just a shame there are so few good titles out. The problem the format has over here right now is that stores that stock the movies are selling them for a massive £25 thats almost double the price of a normal DVD and I'd refuse to pay it.

I'm reviewing the MS HD-DVD drive at the moment and while its excellent in general, it needs its sound fixed ASAP otherwise I won't be using it! Fix is due out in a few weeks.

This post was edited by Byron_Hinson[AW] on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 00:58.

#13 By 21705 (142.213.176.140) at 12/12/2006 11:30:38 AM
I'm not the one with a ton of DVD, I buy a DVD when it is a must have (for me). So I guess I will have to spent a few $$ to get some titles in HD, like Baraka.

I wonder about those maniac with 100+ DVD who will feel the need to get all of them again in HD. Waste of money. Glad I haven't bought Lord of the Rings yet, I'll get the HD version next year maybe, when I will feel confortable with Plasma/LCD and a like (if I ever).

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