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Time:
20:04 EST/01:04 GMT | News Source:
PC Magazine |
Posted By: Chris Hedlund |
It's a new day for Mozilla. Only a few days after OneStat reported that its Firefox Web browser has reached nearly 13% market share worldwide, the open-source software development organization this morning released Beta 1 of Firefox 2.0. With this release, Firefox devotees will be widely testing the next version of the browser.
According to scheduling documents linked to from the Mozilla site, the developers expect Beta 2 to arrive in about four weeks, followed by two or three release candidates during early September, and a possible final release of Firefox 2.0 on Sept. 26. Of course, all of these milestone dates are subject to change. But with the release of Beta 1, Firefox 2.0's final release is no longer a distant eventuality.
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#1 By
3653 (68.52.143.149)
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7/12/2006 9:13:02 PM
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pinch me... i feel like i'm living in the future. i can only dream of the amazing features that will be added after a spell checker and phishing filter.
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#2 By
32132 (64.180.219.241)
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7/12/2006 10:21:06 PM
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"Mozilla has added several minor refinements to its tabbed browsing features, the best of which is a new Undo Close Tab function. "
Stolen from Maxthon.
"Firefox adds a built-in RSS and XML feed-viewing capability"
Maxthon.
"There's also a new Session Restore function that automatically offers to reopen all the tabs that were open in Firefox prior to some unexpected problem, such as a program or operating system crash or a power outage."
Maxthon.
"Mozilla was forced to push off some of its more ambitious goals for Firefox 2.0 to Firefox 3.0."
OSS is always copying Microsoft.
"The list of what's new, as a result, is modest"
Understatement of the year!
Why call it Firefox 2.0? Why not IStealMaxthonsIdeas 2.0?
This post was edited by NotParker on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 at 22:27.
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#3 By
12071 (203.185.215.144)
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7/13/2006 12:28:15 AM
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#2 Shouldn't you award some of that credit to Opera rather than Maxthon?
The current list of changes for FireFox 2.0 is listed here: http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2006/07/12/firefox-2-beta-1-milestone-released/
You must have forgotten to mention things like:
- Support for JavaScript 1.7 and
- Support for client-side session and persistent storage
But you're right, Firefox doesn't have anywhere near as many features as IE... I hope that by Firefox 7.0 they will finally have all the features of IE7 like:
- RSS Feeds
- Microsoft ActiveX Opt-In
- Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) Updates
- Portable Network Graphics (PNG) Alpha Support
- XMLHTTP Native Support
- Internationalized Domain Name Support
- Tabbed Browsing
- HTML 4.0.1 Support
*fingers crossed*
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#4 By
32132 (64.180.219.241)
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7/13/2006 1:09:28 AM
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"Support for client-side session and persistent storage"
"The globalStorage object also introduces a way for sites to cooperate to track users over multiple domains, by storing identifying data in "public" top-level domain storage area, accessible by any domain."
Great. I guess this is Googles payoff for money invested in Firefox.
No thanks. Not a feature I need and one I definitely don't want.
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#5 By
13030 (198.22.121.110)
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7/13/2006 9:24:28 AM
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System requirements becomes a defining feature for me as it will for many other users. Firefox 2.0 will run on all Windows versions from 95 on. IE 7.0 will require Windows XP SP2. Being able to run IE 7 on one of my three machines at home isn't too bad... I guess. Thankfully, Firefox will run on all three.
All the new features in IE 7.0 are for naught if the browser can't run on my version of Windows.
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#6 By
37047 (216.191.227.68)
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7/13/2006 10:08:07 AM
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#3: You forgot the innovative addition to IE 7 that is most needed in other browsers, namely printing that actually prints all of the page, not just the leftmost 90% of the page. I hope Firefox gains that ability soon, too. *fingers also crossed*
#5: Well put. IE 7 will run on WinXP SP2 and above, and Win2003 and Win2003 R2. Firefox will run on everything from Win 98 and above, Linux, and Mac OSX 10.2 and above. However, Win95 support was stopped a while ago. Only 98 and above is now supported.
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#7 By
46122 (68.237.248.162)
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7/13/2006 12:13:03 PM
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#6 Some users were able to install IE7 on OSX. When I installed the new beta of FF, even the 1.5 version on 98 or 2000, it ran like crap.
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#8 By
32132 (64.180.219.241)
at
7/13/2006 12:41:36 PM
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Windows XP is 85% of the market. Win2K + Win98 + WinME = 10%.
I understand Firefox 3.0 won't support Win98 or WinME either. And some Firefox developers are advocating killing Firefox 2.0 support for Win9x too.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2006/6/13/4304
I'll take a browser hasn't sold out to Google to make it easier for them to sell ads.
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#10 By
39852 (204.101.172.146)
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7/13/2006 2:35:17 PM
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Actually, a lot of these features were implemented as extensions for Firefox before they added the functionality into the main branch. But yes, it's helpful that the most useful extensions are becoming integrated with the main browser.
"Mozilla was forced to push off some of its more ambitious goals for Firefox 2.0 to Firefox 3.0."
OSS is always copying Microsoft.
That was pretty funny :)
Actually it's because the Firefox versioning is different in that major (x.0 versions) are a freeze of the previous set of point releases. For example, they built the 0.x versions of Firefox and added/removed/reworked stuff until they were satisfied and called that a 1.0, from which they used that as a base to work new features fix things with point releases until they have 2.0, etc. Firefox 3.0 won't be a major change from 2.0, rather, the point releases will springboard off 2.0 and introduce new features until they freeze for a 3.0.
In the land of marketing, perhaps 3.0 means it has to introduce a whole bunch of new features so they could say "Hey, the number 3 is bigger than 2, so customers will have to feel that numerical increase somehow!!!!!" but in reality it's just a number for a build that helps developers keep track of the software revision. I don't know why it ties into product marketing or how that got started (probably when MS Word got branded version 6.0 because they thought consumers would start comparing it with WordPerfect 6.0), but it shouldn't provide the basis for dictating the contents of a software release.
Look at Windows versioning... What if they released Windows ME as 4.9, Windows 2000 as 5.0 and then Windows XP as 5.1? Consumers would be led to believe, because of all this stupidness, that these are minor incremental updates (that could be argued in a seperate thread).
This post was edited by Mister on Thursday, July 13, 2006 at 14:36.
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#11 By
17996 (131.107.0.72)
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7/13/2006 7:41:59 PM
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Firefox ought to drop support for 98 and Me. Don't give users running those OSes a false sense of security... using Firefox on them is like having the added protection of a helmet as you walk through a minefield. Good to protect your head, but you're still at huge risk.
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#12 By
37047 (70.25.214.232)
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7/14/2006 7:29:57 PM
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#11: "...using Firefox on them is like having the added protection of a helmet as you walk through a minefield." The visual images that description invoked were fantastically funny, and very apt!
As for the meaninglessness of version numbers, does anyone remember dBase 1? No? That's because it never existed. Ashton-Tate went straight to dBase II, so that no one would avoid it because it was a 1.0 release.
Version numbers have been more a marketing thing than anything else for as long as I have been programming computers, which is a long time. Longer than I'd care to admit to publicly. :-)
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