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Microsoft's iPod Killer Plan | |
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| Time: 12:08 EST/17:08 GMT | News Source: PC Magazine | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Years ago, I predicted Microsoft would walk away from the X-Box platform (just as it had done with other doomed hardware ventures: sound cards, wireless networking hardware, etc.). I was wrong and, at this point, I hope the company never loses interest in the popular gaming console. Now J. Allard, the guy who brought you the X-Box, is reportedly preparing to help Microsoft launch a wireless iPod rival and connected music service sometime later this year. I'll call it, for want of a better term, the "MiPod". | ||
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| #1 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/7/2006 2:43:43 PM |
| I wonder how MS is going to spin 'innovation' on this one. |
| #2 By 8556 (12.217.111.92) at 7/7/2006 4:06:05 PM |
| I'd rather Microsoft have their4 brains work on Vista so it won't blue screen so often on my nForce 430/410 platform. |
| #3 By 7760 (12.155.143.50) at 7/7/2006 4:22:20 PM |
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Latch, I think that you should learn what "innovation" actually means.
Bob, I think that you should complain to nvidia's driver department about that, not Microsoft. This post was edited by Osprey on Friday, July 07, 2006 at 16:25. |
| #4 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/7/2006 4:45:44 PM |
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#3: Innovation: 1: the introduction of something new; 2: a new idea, method, or device. Neither seems to apply to an iPod clone. Which definition did you have in mind again?
And Bob should bitch at MS, not nVidia. nVidia won't give a rat's ass about Bob. However, if enough people whine to MS about nVidia's crappy drivers, MS will lean on nVidia for making MS look bad. #4: You must be new here. Xplayer is far too flashy for MS. Why call it some gawdawful and abstract name like 'iPod' when you can call it 'Windows Portable Media Player Ultimate Edition v1.0'. |
| #5 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 7/7/2006 4:59:30 PM |
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#5: But adding Wireless to an ipod clone is innovative.
Also, if I were an MS stock holder, I would be glad they were branching out into other venues beyond software. I think Latch would too. |
| #6 By 8273 (131.107.0.72) at 7/7/2006 6:28:36 PM |
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So Latch, tell us what is innovative about the iPod.
Is it that they have a device that plays music? Nope, stolen from many others who were first. Is it that they used a hard drive in the device? Nope, done before. Is it that they used flash memory in the device? Nope, done before. Is it the menuing system? Nope, stolen from Creative. Is it that they have a video screen that also plays video? Nope, stolen from others who had it first, including Microsoft with their PMP idea. Is it that they used the color White (tm, (c))? Ooooooh, there you go, that one is original and innovative. All praise Apple, user of White (tm, (c)) (White (tm, (c)) is an original design and fully registered tradmark of Apple Corporation and the glorious Steve Jobs. All rights reserved. Patent pending. Any use of this color for any computer related thoughts, ideas, hardware, or software program will be considered theft from the Apple Corporation and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any discoloration of the White (tm, (c)) is the user's fault. Any divulgence of discoloration of the White (tm, (c)) to the public will be considered slander against the Apple Corporation and the glorious Steve Jobs personally, and will be punished to the fullest extent of the law, including shutting down of one's blog, and the Apple fanboy community will be programed to shun you. Any purchase of an iPod must be followed up by a new purchase within one year, as directed by the glorious Steve Jobs. By looking at anything containing the color White (tm, (c)) implies acceptance to this license agreement, and agree to not hold Apple and the glorious Steve Jobs liable for anything, ever. We may cause anything using the color White (tm, (c)) to download personal information including, but not limited to your name, address, SSN, birthdate, and the time and location [such as the make and model of car] in which you were conceived. In the case that we read such information, you must, at all times, claim that we did so under the most purest of intentions, and at the same time claim that the evil M$ did it only to harm you, personally, especially if you do not own any evil M$ software [See enclosed 'i' (tm, (c)) licensing agreement, which expressly forbids you from owning anything manufactured by evil M$. The letter i, used as a prefix to any word, is a fully owned trademark and copyright of the Apple Corporation and the glorious Steve Jobs]). All joking aside, if half the rumours about the Microsoft player are true then there is a lot of new exciting stuff there. Yes, Apple made music players popular for the regular person, but other than changing the size or preloading U2 music on it, there is not really that much happening from Apple lately to make me want an iPod over my Samsung PMP. I am not saying that I will run out and buy the MS device, I would rather wait until I hear the full specs of the device, unlike you who is criticizing something that has not even been announced yet. This post was edited by SoylentGreen on Friday, July 07, 2006 at 18:31. |
| #7 By 2459 (24.175.137.81) at 7/7/2006 6:32:35 PM |
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Bob, the Windows team would have little to do with this device.
The best way to complain about BSODs (and other issues) is to file a bug report. Then both MS and NVIDIA will get the message. |
| #8 By 61 (71.251.77.180) at 7/7/2006 9:55:32 PM |
| While you can file bug reports for driver issues, if you were to report it in the beta newsgroups, the Microsoftie would tell you to contact tha manufacturer. |
| #9 By 3 (62.253.128.15) at 7/8/2006 1:11:25 PM |
| I'm personally looking forward to the device, and if rumours are true and it will let you download your itunes purchased music onto it for free then even better. Don't think it will outsell the iPod at all though, but thats just my view. |
| #10 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 7/8/2006 1:58:54 PM |
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I am eagerly waiting to see how MS does on this one. What makes this kind of product popular is not the hardware but the software. Can they do the software right the first time?
Most people agree that the iTunes software is the best of its type at present. Will the MS sync software be seamless with the features people want or will it be Active Sync? Only time will tell. |
| #11 By 15406 (24.43.125.29) at 7/8/2006 3:12:55 PM |
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#6: The addition of a feature does not necessarily constitute innovation. Innovation is the creation of a new thing, or a new use for an old thing. It's definately debatable.
#7: So, Soylent, tell us why I should bother answering such an irrelevant question, considering we're talking about MS here? I never said that I thought the iPod was innovative. I was commenting on MS' habit of claiming they innovated again when, in reality, they just copied/bought/stole what was already out there. If you abstract it far enough, you could claim everything is a subset of something that came before. |
| #12 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 7/8/2006 4:08:33 PM |
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enough of the latch blah blah. he's getting as bad as sodajerk, even in his FREQUENCY of posting. Jeez man, spread your valuable knowledge to a few other sites. What did we do to deserve all your carefully crafted opinion and incredible debating skills? Our cup runneth over.
Having never used itunes, I can't comment on the quality of the software. Oldog you seem to think its great, but I thought I got the opposite vibe from my readings. Anyone else care to weigh in on how great itunes is? |
| #13 By 17996 (66.235.19.95) at 7/8/2006 5:03:10 PM |
| #4/5: I think we will see something simple, like Xplayer or Xplay. Remember, this is coming from the Xbox folks--they actually know something about product branding. I don't think we'll see a typical long MS name for this one. |
| #14 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 7/9/2006 12:37:37 AM |
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While I haven't had a lick of personal experiece wih iTunes on our own systems, I have had to support a lot of friends and relatives that have used it and iPod devices - it works, but most have a lot of trouble managing multiple users and devices within the same user profile, which is what most families end up trying to do. Plays for sure enabled devices and other services that we do use for our kids are no better and we seem to remain in a constant syncing one device or another. I spend a lot of time cleaning up sync lists and jacking with DRM issues - once having write and call and have all three machines de-listed and re-sync'd just to listen to music we had purchased. While MS Music/Support was fine about it all, it was a pain in the neck and time consuming. In all, it has been a lot more challenging suporting multiple users on more than one machine with more than one profile and device.
All of them - iTunes, MSN Music, etc... seem to work just dandy... right up until one tries to use them as any family is likely to... e.g., with more than one person/device etc... then it all becomes a lot more difficult and the limitations in all of them become very evident. We've all paid an enormous price resulting from people who stole so much material and shared it with others who also so casually stole from content owners....and once again, families and Moms and Dads who do play by the rules and do pay full fare are the ones stuck with the tab and the headache. |
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