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  Would Another Vista Delay Matter?
Time: 00:18 EST/05:18 GMT | News Source: Microsoft Watch | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

"Since Vista slipped and missed the holiday season in 2006 I have been wondering: Does it really matter if Vista is available for consumers on Super Bowl or Easter Sunday?" said Michael Cherry, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft. "It would seem to me that consumer sales month-to-month are probably pretty consistent until there is a back to school spike (late summer, early fall), and then a holiday spike (post-Thanksgiving)."

Jupiter Research analyst Joe Wilcox also wondered whether anyone would be upset by another Vista delay.

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#1 By 992 (87.74.41.3) at 5/3/2006 3:24:55 AM
It wouldn't bother me too much, XP is fine and and it can already do most of the Vista UI things

Transparancy
Side Bar
Task Bar Picture Preview
Alt-Tab Scroll

You can even find themes that look similar to Vista

#2 By 5912 (62.58.60.27) at 5/3/2006 3:43:36 AM
I don't care but I can understand that a lot of software assurance licensees aren't going to like it.

#3 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 5/3/2006 8:05:56 AM
#2: MS has screwed their SA licensees for years now already. How would this be any different?

#4 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/3/2006 11:24:14 AM
"Flame on but my order for a MacBookPro is ready once the Meroms come out. "

I was monitoring a few public webstatistics sites (I won't tell you who they are because the OSS fanatics will spam them), but Apple usage is creeping up to close to 4% while Linux usage is plummetting.

Better eye candy and lots of security holes and overheated private parts is what you'll get with the MacBook Pro.

#5 By 3746 (71.19.43.237) at 5/3/2006 11:53:50 AM
yeah the new mac laptops are fantastic - whining fans, overheating, bad batteries and for all of that you get to pay a price premium. I love when apple zealots tell me about the fantastic build quality on Apple's products. Open OS X to run on any hardware and then I will take a serious look at it.

#6 By 3746 (71.19.43.237) at 5/3/2006 3:03:50 PM
sure you pay a price premium if you consider that the build quality on these is far from special. Heat problems, battery recalls, whining loud fans sound like extremely poor build quality. You have people pulling them apart and voiding the warranty in order to reapply thermal grease on the CPU because they sent it back for repair and they did nothing to fix their problem. In these cases then they can't even compare to a high quality laptop which you would pay the same for or less. oh and the macbooks are PCs - just jazzed up to suck all the apple lemmings in. But if wrap a piece of crap up in a nice cool looking box it is still a piece of crap.

The only thing you do get is the ability to run OSX and windows XP on the same system. Personally, I will stick to a well built system until apple opens up OS X to run on any hardware. I would love to spend more time with OS X but I am not going to buy their less then stellar first gen intel macs to do it.

This post was edited by kaikara on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 15:07.

#7 By 25488 (66.143.237.250) at 5/3/2006 3:13:05 PM
Well if you goto Apple and select the low end MacBook Pro the one at 1.83GHz, and goto Dell and select a Latitude D520 configure it with the same specs 1GB RAM, 3Year Warranty, 80GB HDD at 5400RPM, and 15" Display (for the dell, as there is no current config for 15.4) and then talley up the results the Dell costs: 1603.00 and the Apple costs: 2348.00. Whats the extra 700 bucks for? and don't say build quality...

#8 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/3/2006 3:19:12 PM
#7 Dell E1505 for $1778

With:

Dual core T2500
MCE2005
Remote Control + TV Tuner
SXGA+ Panel
1Gb ram
DVD DL burner
60Gb 7200rpm drive

The equivalent Mac (which I admit has a better video card and slower but bigger drive) is 2499$. But it doesn't have a TV Tuner or remote or MCE 2005.

#9 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/3/2006 7:31:54 PM
#11 Actually, I'd say the MCE2005 with a TV Tuner and a 60GB 7200 drive is much better than the MacBook Pro.

And the Dell has an 8x dual layer burner, not the 4x single layer burner the Mac has.

And I priced in the WSXGA+ which is 1680 x 1050 pixels instead of Apples 1440 x 900. So I think Dells is better, but I'd have to see them side by side.

I could have gone with the 100$ cheaper one. But I didn't.

But if take away a few thinks liek MCE/TV Tuner/better LCD and go with the 1400 video card, its still 2074.

Whats really nice about Dell is that for $1133 I can buy a base model with a slightly slower dual core chip / 512MB ram etc etc (I'd get the ebetter LCD panel) and I'd still be happy.

And save 766$ off Apples low end offering.

And then buy another one in 2 years and still be ahead of Apples pricing.

This post was edited by NotParker on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 19:33.

#10 By 3746 (71.19.43.237) at 5/3/2006 7:51:42 PM
They could be the same price and it doesn't matter. Who wants to contend with poor build quality, overheating, bad batteries, and whiny loud fans on the first gen intel macbooks. The apple fans are doing a disservice by not admitting that there is a problem with these systems. For the price that these systems are (that puts them in the high end category) they shouldn't be having the problems that they are.


#11 By 3746 (216.16.225.210) at 5/4/2006 7:55:15 AM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/04/apple_sa_deep_links/

looks like apple doesn't like people talking about the problems with thier hardware.

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