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Time: 00:32 EST/05:32 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Robert Stein

After a five-day outage, Microsoft fixed a technician's error Tuesday, allowing Windows users to once again access critical operating system updates on the company's Web site. But the problem--the latest in a series--had .Net analysts questioning whether the software giant can deliver the reliability necessary for its widely touted 24-7 Web services initiative. "Uptime becomes much more critical, and Microsoft has not been concentrating on that," said Daryl Plummer, group vice president for software infrastructure at Gartner, a market research firm. "If they are going to do that with .Net and with .Net My Services, they have to get better."

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#1 By 20 (168.215.253.242) at 1/16/2002 11:30:50 AM
Who was it that said CNet isn't biased and that people who call CNet biased are just Microsoft shills?

Let's see, today we've so far had:

1 Article from CNet advocating and glamourizing Linux for it's adoption of USB 2.0 (of course, CNet was quick to point out how much faster USB 2 adoption is happening in Linux even though they can't see what's going on in the Microsoft world)

1 Article bashing Microsoft and exaggerating the Windows Update problem and extrapolating that into a predicted failure of .NET Services. Except, CNet just doesn't say .NET _SERVICES_, they say all of .NET (which are two different things, but CNet will never tell you that)

#2 By 2960 (156.80.64.157) at 1/16/2002 12:48:51 PM
#1,

It was down for 5 days.

It's the same company that want's all of our egg's in it's .NET basket.

It's the same company that has security issue after security issue.

If you don't find that scary, then I don't know what possibly could be scary to you.

TL

#3 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 1/16/2002 1:50:38 PM
#7,

Weird, I connected to Windows update many times and didn't see any issues.

As opposed to the competition who wants your eggs in it's basket? AOL/Linux/Oracle/Sun

But then so does AOL/Linux/Oracle/Sun. Linux is actually in the lead again for 2002.

I shall just call what you say FUD.

#4 By 4209 (163.192.21.3) at 1/16/2002 2:14:12 PM
Sorry, I had to register. I am #11

#5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 1/16/2002 3:00:37 PM
#11. I would be surprised if you could find any company that guarantees DNS.

This anything-but-Microsoft attitude doesn't have a solution for this problem, because they are no better. For 3 months I was unable to get to java.sun.com.

#6 By 3653 (68.53.87.5) at 1/16/2002 8:16:50 PM
Remember when everyone accused Microsoft of never being innovative. Well, now they don't complain about it. Passport, .Net, xbox... they are all innovative... yet Ellison-bitches like ZiffDavis (CNet) still find fault. No matter what. They always will. Thats what they are there to do. Why else do you see all those Oracle ads on their site. They write this rubbish for a reason. Oracle and Sun can't win by creating better products (and the definition of "Better" includes ROI and TCO)... so they use the DOJ and "news" portals like cnet and newsfactor to fight their battles for them.

And #17... MSNBC definitely doesn't censor. Hell, they even use CNet articles.


#7 By 20 (24.243.32.227) at 1/17/2002 12:15:44 AM
Since when is MS perfect? Why do C|Net and other MS detractors hold MS to some unobtainable perfect standard?

Hell, ATM networks and credit card networks are among the most stable and reliable networks known to man, and THEY even have downtime of several hours a year (even more sometimes). Why is it expected that MS have 110% uptime all the time?

Some of you already said this, that it's a smear campaign by the media because they love underdogs and the liberal "journalists" hate large corporations because they're somehow "evil" because they make money.

If it isn't obvious by now, C|Net and ZDNet have it in for MS.

What about this story?
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/309

Oracle and Larry Ellison have been proclaiming Oracle 9i "unbreakable" and "break-in proof" (e.g. hacker proof), yet some UK security expert has already cracked it and found a security vulnerability.

How come C|net isn't touting that all about?

Oracle says "we're perfect" and they're not, and it doesn't get reported (much more newsworthy, IMO)

MS says "we're more secure than we've ever been, but we're not perfect" and they get a minor security flaw in IE which is just that, and it's like the end of the world.

#8 By 4209 (163.192.21.3) at 1/17/2002 9:48:49 AM
Soda,

I know that no one is perfect and everyone messes up once in a while. That was the point, I know MS is not perfect and somethings get messed up. I was just stating what I thought the other commenter was saying about all the eggs in one basket. And also that this news story was more than just about WU. There will be problems just like there are now, nothing is perfect in the Internet world.

Also #16, I was refering to a DNS record for the .Net services the user may be using. I was being vague, since I have not looked into everything .Net and do not know the inner working of it. I have been a little behind in all this. I will learn it when I actually download the MOC for the .Net server and read it.

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