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| Time: 09:05 EST/14:05 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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With Linux continuing its struggle to convince the world's businesses that it's a viable Windows alternative, David Braue asks if the pending release of Windows Vista could finally provide the boost it's been waiting for. More than five years ago the launch of Microsoft Windows XP -- and its considerably improved features and reliability compared with Windows 98 and 2000 -- made a comprehensive desktop rollout a no-brainer for companies. The other options -- still-nascent Linux, IBM's all-but-dead OS/2, or unstable DOS-based versions of Windows -- were all far from desirable. | ||
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| #1 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 1/9/2006 11:07:40 AM |
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I have a prediction.
When Vista beta 2 ships, within 30 days more computers will be running Vista than Linux. Linux desktop market share is actually dropping. |
| #2 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/9/2006 12:31:23 PM |
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This article makes an unbelievable amount of baseless assertions.
"...Mac OS X no doubt studied heavily by Microsoft during Vista's design..." "No doubt"--in other words, you don't have any evidence for this, but of course everyone knows Microsoft copies Apple in everything, so Q.E.D. Ridiculous. From all the screenshots I've seen thus far, I don't see anything like it. In some ways, I wish they were copying OS X; for example, I think the translucency at the edges of the windows is a bad idea (though I realize you can turn it off). But we haven't seen the final version yet, so who knows? Maybe it will be just like OS X, complete with the Dock, bouncing application icons, "Trash can," Apple logo... erm, sure. It will even have a Mach kernel, I heard. "...given that desktop Linux is cheaper to install..." Of course. Again, just assert it, then Q.E.D. "...a much more robust operating environment..." In what sense? Or does everyone simply "know" this one, too? "Capable open-source standards like the GIMP image editor and Evolution e-mail client, paired with a growing range of point solutions from independent and commercial developers, offer enough functionality to let most companies replace 80 percent of Windows desktops without users even knowing the difference." No source on the 80 percent? Most companies? This seems to happen a lot in Linux vs. Windows debates--everyone knows that Linux is better, cheaper, everyone can use it, it has all the apps you'll ever need, etc.--no need for actual figures or references. In my company, we can run it on ZERO percent, because there are NO comparable apps to several that we run on a daily basis. And OpenOffice is not 100% compatible with Word, so any documents used in collaboration with clients that use Word would have to be checked for any conversion errors (we used to do it in WordPerfect, and got rid of it for that very reason). ...which brings up the VMWare/Xen comments in the article (along with WINE). How does this reduce your dependence on Microsoft at all? You still have to buy the Windows license, and you simply make it harder and more convoluted for your users to get to the applications they need, not to mention the additional management burden you've just created. And regarding management, Windows does have room for a lot of improvement, but it has Group Policy, which is far more robust, integrated, and easy-to-use than anything comparable I've seen for Linux. It does provide one telling remark, though: "...since Windows XP has been the target for Linux developers for so long, Vista's new structure will send them back to the drawing boards to replicate the user experience it provides...." So, in other words, as many have been saying all along, the Open Source community simply copies proprietary software. If Linux does take over on the desktop, who will they have left to copy? |
| #3 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 1/9/2006 3:54:38 PM |
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#2: of course MS looked at OS X. They'd be stupid not to. I'm not saying they necessarily copied anything from it, but you have to look at what your competitors are doing. Take the best, discard the rest. IE7 will have tabs, but not mouse gestures. Tabs are great; gestures suck.
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| #4 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/9/2006 4:25:01 PM |
| Latch--of course, you have to watch your competition, but the article claimed: "Mac OS X, which Vista is copying heavily...", which is implies that they're making a near-OS X clone out of Windows. I've been following the development of Vista very closely, and I see no evidence of that at all. This author relies far too much on supposition, but goes the extra unjournalistic mile in claiming it as commonly-accepted fact. |
| #5 By 17996 (66.188.88.180) at 1/9/2006 8:56:15 PM |
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"With Linux continuing its struggle to convince the world's businesses that it's a viable Windows alternative, David Braue asks if the pending release of Windows Vista could finally provide the boost it's been waiting for."
Where were the Linux users during the antitrust trial? The entire trial is built on the monopoly finding, which specifically stated there are no "viable alternatives" to Windows. "Capable open-source standards like the GIMP image editor and Evolution e-mail client, paired with a growing range of point solutions from independent and commercial developers, offer enough functionality to let most companies replace 80 percent of Windows desktops without users even knowing the difference." If "most companies" can move so many desktops to Linux, it sure sounds like Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly. Seriously, anti-MS people can't have it both ways. Either Windows has a monopoly or not. The question is, when does the monopoly status get re-evaluated by the courts? How much inroads does Linux have to make before the monopoly is over? Because as soon as the monopoly label is removed, Microsoft can go back to whatever "questionable" business practices it wants to use. The monopoly was found to be over x86-based computers only. Wonder how Mac OS's move to Intel will affect this? Or, the (slow) migration to x64. |
| #6 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 1/10/2006 8:52:51 AM |
| #5: There is nothing wrong or illegal about being a monopoly. The MS antitrust case was based on MS using its monopoly to force others to do what it wanted them to do. The problem starts when the dominant company starts abusing its monopoly, and that's illegal as it tends to hurt everyone except the monopoly. Linux didn't have as high a profile back in the MS DOJ days like it does today. However, MS is still a monopoly as they have 90+% of the OS space and that likely won't change any time soon. |
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