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  Gartner: Ignore Vista until 2008
Time: 14:22 EST/19:22 GMT | News Source: ZDNet UK | Posted By: Andre Da Costa

There is no compelling reason to rush into upgrading to the next version of Windows, says Gartner. Companies shouldn't rush to upgrade to Microsoft Windows Vista, according to analysts at Gartner, who believe most firms could safely hold back until 2008. The majority of improvements in Vista will be security-related and most of this functionality "is available via third-party products today", Gartner claimed in a research note published on Friday. While Vista will feature "offer incremental, evolutionary improvements" over its predecessors, XP users should "pursue a strategy of managed diversity" only bringing in Vista on new machines and not until 2008, the analysts recommend.

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#1 By 415 (69.67.200.50) at 11/11/2005 4:47:45 PM
Yeah, that Gartner guy is such a tool!

FYI - Gartner is a company, not a person, dude.

#2 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 11/11/2005 5:06:54 PM
Another Vista feature that Microsoft is emphasising is its search capabilities. "Search is slow in Windows XP and files, email and calendar objects cannot be found with a single search." While Microsoft has tried to remedy this in Vista, "competent third-party desktop tools are already available" from companies like Google, Gartner pointed out.

What strikes me as odd is that they don't point out that Microsoft itself already offers such tools (MSN desktop search and also the Lookout software for Outlook). I don't know if it's just me, but desktop search a la Google just doesn't seem like that big of a deal (and goodness gracious, that functionality has been around from various programs for a LONG, LONG time before Google... I'm beginning to think the primary thing they've discovered is a Steve Jobs-less Reality Distortion Field.... Hey, folks, you do realize that GoogleEarth--for instance--existed BEFORE Google, right???). Distributed WinFS--now that could be truly powerful.

I haven't read the whole report, but there is just so much more going into Vista than is acknowledged in the major tech news outlets. They do the same thing every time before and during a new Windows release--nothing much to see here, move along, yada yada yada--yet look how far it has come.

#3 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 11/12/2005 8:03:36 PM
"The analysts acknowledged that companies who use IE7 and Vista will have fewer points of weakness.

Also on the security issue, the Windows Vista personal firewall is better than the one included in XP Service Pack 2, Gartner acknowledged, and will, crucially, improve security on inbound and outbound traffic — a particular issue with laptops. But, the analysts say, users should already have "a more than capable" firewall on their laptops anyway."

Ok ... whats the downside to more security? Oh, right. Pay your security vendors a yearly fee instead of upgrading to Vista. I don't think so.


#4 By 9589 (65.191.135.193) at 11/13/2005 10:00:23 AM
Gartner is speaking to the enterprise customer. This is the customer that keeps their lights on. Yet, Gartner speaks as if, as usual, that enterprises do not have enterprise level agreements with Microsoft (you do not need to bet that Gartner has an EA with Microsoft - go figure). Those agreements such as SA tell the customer that they can deploy any of the Windows operating systems that Microsoft supports at will. So, the typical enterprise with a Microsoft SA can move to Vista at no additional charge than what they are already paying in either one time or periodic fees.

Second, Gartner states that, "hey, you can have Vista now with third party tools." Yeah, that is what the enterprise customer wants to suppport - sure.

#5 By 19992 (164.214.4.31) at 11/14/2005 8:46:18 AM
NotParker and jdhawk:

My initial reaction was the same as yours to this report. But, the more I think about it, is this really going to affect anything. IIRC, Vista is due out around the holidays in 2007. By the time the new OS has been tested with existing apps, a new baseline has been tested and vulnerability testing has been performed it will be 2008 anyways. The report seems to be more of Gartner trying to justify its existence by publishing more useless crap.

#6 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 11/14/2005 9:53:30 AM
happyguy--Vista is due in the 2nd half of 2006 (likely the holidays), so it is significant in that regard. In the enterprise space, though, this really isn't news. When they have solid desktops right now, what would it take to convince them to upgrade? It's going to take them time to "certify" Vista in their environment anyhow, so even a "killer app" would only find its way in over a period of testing, piloting, etc. In other words, "duh."

The problem I have with the report (from what I've read) is that it only acknowledges a small set of the changes that come with Vista. If you spend any time around Channel 9, you'd see that there is a lot going on that just isn't receiving much, if any, attention.

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