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Microsoft Pays IBM $775 Million to Settle Antitrust Claims | |
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| Time: 11:52 EST/16:52 GMT | News Source: Microsoft Watch | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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But IBM claims pertaining to alleged harm done by Microsoft to IBM's server hardware and software business are not part of the deal. On Friday, Microsoft and IBM said they had settled many of the outstanding antitrust issues between the two companies raised during the United States Department of Justice vs. Microsoft antitrust case during the mid-1990s. | ||
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| #1 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 7/4/2005 9:08:40 AM |
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Another month goes by, another massive antitrust payout, another massive IE hole that owns your system, another loaded "study" from a close partner,...
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| #2 By 7754 (65.27.90.2) at 7/4/2005 10:55:00 AM |
| Another 30 cynical, categorical, superficial, misleading, ill-informed, finger-in-his-ears-and-never-will-believe-despite-the-facts statements from Latch. :P |
| #3 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 7/4/2005 1:13:00 PM |
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#2: What's the matter? Did someone steal your Bill Gates doll? I find it very funny that you have nothing but insults to answer me with. But you're right on the cynical part. Watching MS for all these years has made me very cynical when it comes to them and their behaviour. If Bill & Steve saved a dying puppy in the street, I'd be looking for the angle because there always is one with MS.
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| #4 By 7754 (65.27.90.2) at 7/5/2005 12:48:58 AM |
| I'm teasing, c'mon--not trying to insult you. But we've discussed all these things before. For example, I hear the word "debunked" and "refuted" regarding the studies that MS commissioned, with little regard paid to the actual facts in the report. It's as if anti-MS folks *cannot* believe, for any reason, that MS might be cheaper or better or faster or easier to use or whatever. That's just plain lousy logic. |
| #5 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 7/5/2005 9:27:46 AM |
| #4: well, instead of just hearing about them, maybe you should read the refuations of the MS studies. You won't find them here at AW however. Both Slashdot and Groklaw usually have links to the people who performed and wrote up the analysis of the latest MS FUD or bogus study. After reading the FUD and then the anti-FUD, you can then make up your own mind. |
| #6 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 7/5/2005 10:48:39 AM |
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Excuse me folks, but but I seriously doubt MS would have paid out 775 MILLION unless there was some sort of guilt involved.
And AW... GET RID OF THE GD TALKING ADVERTISEMENTS. JEEZ! |
| #7 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 7/5/2005 12:29:33 PM |
| Latch... I have read many "refutations." I was referring to folks posting on here using "debunked," "refuted," etc. I think it's telling when you automatically call the MS commissioned study "FUD" and anything "refuting" it "anti-FUD." Again, that's just plain lousy logic. You know, when a company comes out and says, Windows costs us less overall, perhaps it really does, no? No, wait, they're all lying to us... MS is secretly giving CIOs/IT managers millions of dollars so they will lie about Linux. Of course! |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 7/5/2005 1:16:35 PM |
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#7: OK, but what if that company's previous 5 studies were proven to be paid-for crap masquerading as an independant study? When that company release yet another, do you expect the new one to be real where all the others were crap? Or do you expect the new one to be just as crappy as the past 5? It would be refreshing if it wasn't proven to be crap. Even some MS-friendly sites will say it's crap. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
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| #9 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 7/5/2005 2:34:48 PM |
| "Proven to be paid-for crap"--proven to be paid-for is one thing, proven to be crap is another. Your definition of "proof" seems to be quite a bit less rigorous than the one with which I'm familiar. What I'm referring to when I say "company" is a company that evaluated Windows vs. Linux cost, not Microsoft. If it's cheaper for them, it's cheaper for them. I don't see what is so implausible about that. |
| #10 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 7/5/2005 8:18:38 PM |
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Hey, Latch, here is the bottom line: RHAT second quarter income 11.84 million dollars; MSFT second quarter income 2.56 billion dollars. RHAT acquires additional customers in the thousands; MSFT acquires additional customers in the millions. Try debunking, refuting, etc. the above facts.
The reports of which OS is cheaper to buy, install, and maintain are simply anedoctal. Who really gives a crap? The customer has spoken with his or her wallet. The winner has been and is MSFT. By the way, I work at a Fortune 50 company serving millions of customers. While we run the gamut of vendor's hardware and software, the only systems that face the Internet are running Windows. We have never had a break in. Why are you here again? |
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